YouTube Channel: "Spaced Out Radio" Video Title: "Luis Elizondo, Sean Cahill, Gary Shoefield - UFOs - Disclosure - June 25th" Luis Elizondo, Sean Cahill, Gary Shoefield - UFOs - Disclosure - June 25th 10,229 views Streamed live on May 27, 2021 May 26, 2021 - Hour One: Luis Elizondo, Hour 2: Sean Cahill, Hour 3: Gary Shoefield 0:00 - 6:18 - Pre-show Greetings 6:18 - 35:30 - Hour 1 - 1st Half - Luis Elizondo 35:30 - 1:06:23 - Hour 1 - 2nd Half - Luis Elizondo 1:06:23 - 1:35:27 - Hour 2 - 1st Half - Sean Cahill 1:35:27 - 2:06:24 - Hour 2 - 2nd Half - Sean Cahill 2:06:24 - 2:36:32 - Hour 3 - 1st Half - Gary Shoefield 2:36:32 - 2:58:51 - The SOR Newswire 2:58:51 - 3:36:23 - Post Show Discussion In hour one, Luis Elizondo joins us to give us an update as we are 29 days away from the Pentagon's release of the UFO files. What will we get? Hour two, Sean Cahill talks about the state of 'Disclosure' and what this means to people in North America and around the world? From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2W3NDGRkR0 Transcript: good evening everybody on spaced out radio on our YouTube channel along with Twitter and twitch thank you so much for tuning Us in tonight as we got a power show for all of you here on this fine night and we appreciate each and every one of you tuning in we are going to have a large audience tonight I don't know if I'm going to be able to get to roll call because the chat room is already moving at at lightning speed for everybody and I will do my best but you know if we can't do it we can't do it that's okay because when we have a night like tonight where Mr Luis Elizondo will be with us at hour one Sean Cahill in hour two and we're gonna get into this weird alien autopsy thing in hour three we got a jam-packed night of UFOs and it's all for you because that's what we do here on the mighty Sor each and every night seven days a week starting at 9 00 PM Pacific midnight eastern time I've got my game face on tonight and I have to because when you have a person like we do tonight like Lou Elizondo he doesn't want any BS he doesn't want any crap he doesn't have time for it this guy is barely sleeping four hours a night he is that busy right now with everything that is going on in the UFO world and I can tell you this it's not going to stop for him and you know what I don't even think he enjoys being the face of ufology that's just my opinion here okay I don't think he enjoys it you know this is a job though that he knows he is destined to do and we got to pay respect for that look there's been a lot of people out there lately who have been very critical of Lou of the whole situation that's going on and you know I can admit years ago I was a little bit wondering as well but seeing how this guy is busting his ass each and every night here and doing multiple podcasts multiple television shows multiple radio shows in trying to get the message out as best as he can you know that deserves some respect in my opinion and you know what we're glad to have him so we have Lou Elizondo in our number one Sean Cahill and his beautiful hair and beard are going to join us in our number two and then this weird alien autopsy Gary shufield is going to join us in our number three it is jam-packed and I know there's a ton of you out there I'd normally say hi to all of you in the chat rooms it's way too busy right now way too busy and this is rare well we don't hope it's rare but I mean this is just the way it is for tonight and uh yeah we'll we'll show you yeah lose here there he is there he is hey folks how are you and we are going to get this thing going the radio show portion will start in exactly let's see here two minutes and 30 seconds and then we will start the runoff to what everybody wants to hear which is lose opinion we're gonna get right into it there's not going to be a warm-up for this because like I said Lou's jammed with information and I'm pretty sure that all he really wants to do right now is have his head hit his pillow that that is I think that's the truth that is the complete truth right there and uh but Lou we are so glad to have you here again this is your second time in three months on this show man and I don't know how you're doing it I don't know how much gas you have left in the tank but it's still a long road ahead for you my friend and congratulations on everything you've accomplished so far I really appreciate it Dave thank you so much it's really my privilege to be here uh you know I promise to you and your audience I would make it up to you last time because I couldn't give you the full time um so I just wanted to to make good on my promise um I I do apologize if I seem a little little uh less animated uh this evening I'm just I I am a little bit tired as most people probably don't know I do have it I do have a day job as well uh but the good news is I am going to be followed up by someone who's far more charismatic than me and that is uh the one and only uh the man the myth Legend um that would be Mystic lion uh AKA Sean Cahill uh or by those who used to know his old call sign they still you know obviously minty hyperspace but uh um I just you know there's just there's just such a ring behind that Mystic lion he he exudes it so I'm just gonna stick with that oh I think it's fantastic and and uh you know we won't uh we won't break too much or bust Sean too much before uh he comes on because you know we don't want you know we sure you know exactly you know but he I love it fit on the screen with all that hair you know if his head gets any bigger then all of a sudden you're just gonna know so there's very few in the UFO world that can put my hair to shame and Sean definitely does that that is for sure he puts my German Shepherd's big man to shame I mean you see him side by side I got this big beautiful male German Shepherd and they you know he goes and gives him a big hug when he comes by to visit and you know the dog kind of looks back like this and he's like hey you know where'd you get that Mane there's a little bit of like jealousy going on there oh for sure for sure we're gonna get going here in 30 seconds on the radio show I want to remind everybody that a great way to support us if you haven't already is hit that subscribe button ring that Bell we are here seven days a week here starting at 9 p.m Pacific midnight eastern time the Super Chat is open and for all of you you can follow us on social media all over the place I think most of you already do we're gonna get get going here in about five seconds we are in for one hell of a night here on spaced out radio and I'm so glad all of you are a part of it here we go [Music] [Music] from the mountains of central British Columbia to you listening around the world this my friends is spaced out radio I am your host Dave Scott sitting in the captain's chair of Sor headquarters we welcome you to tonight's show on our terrestrial Affiliates around North America digitally on talk stream live kpnl and Revolution Radio if you want to take a listen to our archives they are free for you at youtube.com forward slash spaced out radio just do me the favor hit that subscribe button you can follow us on Twitter at spaced out radio and on Instagram at spaced out radio show our website is spacedoutradio.com we have a plethora of features for you including rocking out to bumblefoot and reading up on Captain shirts Sor newswire tonight's show is brought to you by chive Charities help make the world 10 happier by visiting chive Charities today you can find them on our website I'll tell you we have a busy night here on spaced out radio so we're going to get right to it here in hour number one we are proud to have Luis Elizondo talk about the State of Affairs in the UFO world right now and man are we ever in exciting times in hour two Sean Cahill will join us to continue the discussion then in hour three the infamous alien autopsy video going up for auction as an nft yep it's happening all right let's do this Luis Elizondo second time in three months you've been on spaced out radio we are very glad to have you here are you tired yet David is my my absolute privilege to be here uh it is a promise that I I meant to keep unfortunately I I couldn't be with you and your audience uh for the full two and a half hours last time so I'm here to to make up for that um so first of all thank you for having me back and not uh not throwing Tomatoes at me uh as I come through the front door and and secondly it is it is truly my privilege to to come back and have a wonderful chat with you and and of course to be followed by by someone who's far as I said before far more charismatic than than me and that's uh that's Sean Cahill um I think uh I think uh he's definitely you know he's I've been a little tired lately so forgive me if I'm not as charismatic but I think I think Sean's going to give you guys one hell of a show Lou right off the bat this is getting closer June 25th and every day we see a lot more of these so-called experts coming out of the woodwork people who are critical of the work you're doing people who are critical of the work that the words that are coming out from the government whether it's Jeremy corbell's videos whether it's statements from the Pentagon how are you handling this newfound criticism that is jumping out of nowhere well look I've said before the truth has nothing to hide and and I'm not I'm not a stranger to criticism you know the very moment I left the government and walked on that stage some three and a half years ago I was met with with criticism uh from all sides um but I'm not doing this to to to make friends uh I'm I'm doing this for for a very deeply personal reason um and it's it is to to tell tell the truth tell America what what what really their tax dollars was paying for and what what we found uh and at the end of the day you know once once we finish that conference conversation you know I'm glad to to fade off into the sunset and uh you know get weird and disappear and live up in the mountains um I'm not doing this for for for a personal gain in fact it's it's a lot of personal sacrifice uh as you probably see I'm I'm you know every time I do one of these I look more and more tired uh and there's a reason for that because besides doing what I'm doing I I do have a day job I have to pay my mortgage and put my kids through school and whatnot I have responsibilities you know I I do this for free um and Dave you know this and your audience probably knows this but I'm not making a sense doing this podcast I I don't make a sense doing Fox News or CNN or NBC or ABC Uh I I do it because I I believe in the cause and I believe the people uh who are who are part of this effort I believe in you I believe in your audience and I I think this is something that for the first time maybe in in history we have taken this topic and this this little ragtime group we call ufology and have really turned into a global movement and that's you know there's something to be said for that and and every single one of the listeners right now and every single one of your bloggers uh are are part of that movement um so this is a joint effort and I think for me it's been an honor and privilege to to to be part of that um you know I'm not looking to be the face of ufology I'm not looking to be the leader of anything you know uh my first responsibility priority is that as a father secondly it's that as an American citizen and a patriot uh but in order to be you know a patriot sometimes you have to do things that don't seem very patriotic at the time and so I I left the government to to do this so I guess with that said thank you for for having me back and your audience for having the patience to to to allow me to come back um Lou I want to ask you one personal question before we get into the goods here and I've never heard this question asked to you so I'm just going to fire it out there's always people behind you that are supporting you that are holding your back up and namely that always falls back on our family how is your family your wife your children holding out through this entire process of watching you stress out watching you all over the place you know people you know wanting a piece of you every minute of every day how are they holding out uh you know they're they're they're they're they're doing really well probably a lot better than than I would expect anybody to do you know they see their dad go up every day or their husband taking arrows and and getting cheap shots and people who've never met me before uh you know having all these these crazy accusations about who I am and what I do and what my intentions and motivations are and they've you know they they they they've been with me for for 20 years they they were with me when I was in combat they were with me when I was doing a lot of jobs for the government that you know maybe one day those stories will come out uh and they know the type of person I am and at the end of the day I just you know I just want to do good I want to I want to do good for my country um and that that mission never stopped and they I think for them there's there's a lot of personal pain watching dad go up there and take the arrows and not being able to to do at least you know I was telling you before before we went on the radio you know at least in combat you can shoot back but but here you can't here you just have to sit there and smile out and take the arrows and and you know stay focused to the mission um I try to to do my best to to uh to to facilitate the narrative so everybody has a voice I think every voice is important even the naysayers even those voices I don't agree with necessarily what we're trying to do uh everybody's opinion counts as long as we can have that discussion in a cordial way um you know at least sometimes anyways is it getting cordial is it is it getting a little bit too much like I hear everybody from Mick West to Dr Stephen Greer coming at you at different angles and all the sublets that they have around them coming at you I mean how hard is that to to deflect all of that pressure well you know it's it's funny because for for three and a half years they've been taking cheap shots at me and I hadn't said I haven't said anything uh you know the one time I I I I I do a you know just a small retort you know they fall to pieces and start crying and you know they they're not fair Lou and what are you doing and you know you're picking a fight well you know I mean at some point you know you you keep you keep poking you know I'm gonna poke back um you know what I don't like is is the disingenuousness of people um whereas they're they are I want people to have the conversation and I don't care if you agree with me or not I don't care who you go for your sources of information make up your own mind but when people come out there and they obfuscate and they tell you deliberately don't listen to those people only listen to me and you know give me your money so so I can tell you the truth you know I I don't know what to tell you man but there's look Heaven's Gate and Jim Jones comes to mind um I think you have Cults of Personality out there that that have been taking advantage of people and and and spinning a story for so long that they believe their own stories at this point and and unfortunately people get wrapped up in those narratives and and they are they are discouraged from from thinking on their own and asking their own questions anything that doesn't comport to someone's narrative is automatically disinformation automatically it's you know some someone sort of big Grand lie that the government's kind of spin up to try to fool you for whatever reason you know but I mean it's utter nonsense and and unfortunately when you when you finally call them on their nonsense you know then they then they want to cry and you know you know roll on their backs and and you know kick their feet in the air so um it is I try not to to to to lower myself to that I try to maintain a much higher standard but look I'm human and and there's going to be times where yeah I'm gonna get two three hours of sleep you know uh every night for a week and my patience is going to wear thin and uh you know as a kid I I did a lot of boxing I did a lot of martial arts I did a lot of of weight lifting and that was an outlet for me but unfortunately I don't I don't have those to you know at my at my disposal because I've been the last three years so so so invested in this topic and I haven't had the time and frankly my health has suffered and and everything else and so again I'm not looking for a pity party so don't take that the wrong way I don't want anybody in your audience to come out and say oh poor Lou no poor Lou my ass you know I knew exactly what I was getting into I'm doing this because I believe it's the right thing to do I don't want your mercy I don't want your pity what I want is is is is you to think and I want you to engage I want you to talk about this topic I don't care what narrative you have just talk to people about it let them know it's okay to have this conversation because we we are entering a a new paradigm whether you realize it or not which I think most people do this topic has has reached a critical mass it has gotten to the point where in the last 70 years we never would have dreamed of getting to this point and now we're here you have every major news Outlet listening and they're taping the topic taking the topics you know seriously and uh I I think that's a hell of an achievement and that's an achievement we can all celebrate and rejoice in because this has been uh this has been a uh this has been a mutual Mutual effort and it's been a mutual victory all right I'm going to assume then that you're not going to take up Dr Steven Greer on his offer to have a online live debate on third phase of moon then whose career there you go I'm kidding look uh I I don't look I don't negotiate with terrorists bottom line and uh I'm not going to to draw attention to to every person out there that wants to you know scream and cry and and and you know again throw stones at me it's like walking by a schoolyard where you have some four-year-old in the playground you know calling you names you know what do you do do you jump the fence and go beat that kid's butt no you don't do that you know I mean could you sure but but you're not going to solve anything you know their kids on the playground let them Heckle and you know stay focused to to the real Mission at hand all right Lou let's get right into it because recently we have seen everybody from President Obama on down starting to talk about this subject and one of the concerns that I had regarding President Obama is five years ago he was on Jimmy Kimmel I believe denying that he when he asked about this topic that he knew nothing of it that he was told nothing of it now recently with James Corden he comes on and states that you know he does know a little bit about this topic and and we do need to investigate this is this a matter of the former president uh you know keeping an NDA that he had to keep quiet on this subject or is this a story where he's now getting interested in what's coming out look I can't speak on behalf of President Obama but what I can say is that those were different times five years ago if anybody whether you were the media you're a politician or anybody else uh were to talk about this this topic in a serious Manner and in a public matter um you know it was it was career suicide by the way ask me how I know right so um it it wasn't palatable and no I don't blame I mean if you're gonna blame him you've got to blame everybody because nobody was taking this topic seriously and if they were no one was gonna be open about it so I I certainly don't want people to blame Obama or even Trump or anybody else um you know when you are presented with facts uh and and data and information it's it's up to us to process that and then determine what we want to do with it the system was not ready at the time for this conversation it simply wasn't and uh I I think had he have brought this discussion up before he probably would have been labeled uh like a lot of people were labeled at the time and you know it's it's a shame I applaud him for having this conversation now just like I do Senator Marco Rubio and Senator Warner and Senator Harry Reid and everybody else said look this is a bipartisan issue this is actually it's a nonpartisan issue it doesn't matter if you're conservative or liberal or anybody else you you this pertains to all of us and so to see these leaders whether you're a former Director of National Intelligence or former director of CIA uh you know this is a big deal this is a sign that is getting easier to talk about easier to have this conversation and I I don't think the genie is going to go back into the bottle at this point all right well John podesta according to an article less uh listed on politico.com uh today or just a couple days ago has basically said and reached out to President Biden saying release the X-Files is this a matter of all of these people who believed in this subject include it which includes yourself now putting that pressure on saying let's get it out it's time the 70 years of secrecy is over well yeah I I think you know we're at a point where we we can't we can't ignore the evidence we can't ignore the the impeccable reputation of these Brave Pilots coming forward and by the way for every pilot that comes forward there's there's 10 20 more behind them that haven't come out yet but they but I think they will uh the the evidence is is has been there for a long time but it's getting to a point now where it's it's it's becoming irrefutable and you can't ignore it it becomes a liability this is what I've said before you know the longer you you keep quiet on this topic you know early on if you keep it secret yeah there might be a short-term benefit but but long term um it's it's not a benefit and I've I've always of course said that this is not a conversation like fine wine where the longer you keep a cork on it the better it gets this is more of a conversation like rotten vegetables in the refrigerator and and it's really beginning to stink and the longer you leave it in there and you don't address the problem the worse it's going to be so I think I I think that's where we are and the problem is if if the government ignores us much longer that secret that they held actually starts working towards the government's disadvantage because it comes to a Tipping Point where people don't believe their government they don't the the government no longer has credibility uh with with with the people and that's that's dangerous because once an institution or an organization no longer is recognized uh to have those authorities vested in it by the people and people have lose their faith and confidence in that organization then then the organization stays are numbered just I mean look at Rome so I think people are aware of the government that that there needs to be a solution very quickly we need to have a a conversation quickly about this uh even if we don't have all the facts and data yet um and get the conversation going because at some point this is going to backfire and you can see it now in the Press it's already starting to look bad on on on on The Gatekeepers on those those who were keeping the secrets for too long it's now working to their disadvantage is it a threat is it not a threat this is a big topic that we still have in this entire Forum in this entire discussion you have recently that I've heard have been kind of leaning towards the fact that maybe it's not a threat but we still can't rule that out is your attitude changing on the threat narrative look I don't want to tell anybody what to think you know this is exactly the problem with you with with ufology today everybody wants to know what you know how do I think well you know don't ask me don't be lazy you know you think for yourself here's the facts it absolutely can be a threat but we haven't seen anything on our side that necessarily seems provocative other than incurring into to U.S airspace and there's not a whole lot we can do about it and an interest in our nuclear technology if this was a foreign adversary would it be a threat yes absolutely but if this turns out not to be a foreign adversary then it's anybody's game and you know I I people I've said this for the record so many times look there is a potential for it to be a threat I don't know how many times to say it the potential exists you can bury your head in the center pretend no no no no Santa Claus is real there's no threat out there fine believe that I'm not telling you not to but I'm telling you from my perspective I feel there's a Potential Threat now does that mean it is a real threat right is it a real threat to you and me and everybody else well I don't know you know it could be that that there are indirect threats meaning uh uh for example if I like I've told people before if I go to an airport and I decide to run on you know on the tarmac and stick my head behind the engine while it's you know firing up chances are I'm gonna get injured it's a threat now is that jet engine a threat by itself no but there is a Potential Threat if if you know if I for example you're flying in a 737 and one of these these uaps come real close to the aircraft now the aircraft has to take evasive maneuver is that a problem well yeah it's an air safety issue right is it a direct threat to National Security well you know not necessarily right and somebody just saw someone right up here saying it doesn't mean it's necessarily hostile that's absolutely correct just because something is a threat doesn't mean that's an intentional threat or that there is a a hostile intent behind it and that's what we need to find out all I'm proposing is hey let's collect the data and figure it out collectively I'm not going to tell you it is or it isn't a threat because frankly we don't know and that is the problem because from a governmental perspective when you say I don't know then they're always going to err on the side of caution and say okay then we're going to presume it could be a threat until we know it's not and that is The Prudent way to do things whether it's climate change or anything else you know or it's a typhoon you know these aren't intentional threats these are are consequential threats if that makes a sense so we have three minutes before we have to go to break at the bottom of the hour Luis Elizondo is our against tonight and I really like that because I'll be honest with you I was one confused between a threat and something that is maybe just there and could pose a threat and I think a lot of the public is naive enough to think that threat means that they're coming they're trying to hit our military they're trying to take us out they're playing with our multi-million dollar aircraft doesn't matter if you're in the U.S or Canada or wherever and I think a lot of the public gets confused by that terminology when really they need to understand the English language a little bit more look when the Europeans came over I know we got a short bit of time when the Europeans came over to this country and they infected the indigenous people with smallpox that wasn't a deliberate threat initially it was it was just a consequence of them bringing over a microorganism and it wound up infecting people who didn't have an immunity for it as it's terrible it's horrible it was absolutely a threat to the indigenous people but it wasn't a threat to the Europeans who were bringing it over necessarily and so this is my point we we have to be careful that when we when we use the threat narrative we're not fear-mongering we're not saying you know the the British are coming the British are coming and man the guns what we're simply saying is that there's a huge great big gap of information and we need to start asking questions and filling those gaps with data so then we can make a determination whether something really or is not a threat all right Lou Elizondo is our guest tonight we two minutes before we have to go to break at the bottom of the hour here Lou as we move forward towards June 25th there's going to be a lot more media a lot more hype will we see more videos coming out more information well I think you're for sure going to see more information uh the videos is not up to me yeah there are more videos I mean I've been saying that forever and of course more videos are coming out um you know I yeah there's more videos but it's not up to me to to release it I'm certainly not going to leak those videos I'm not going to encourage anybody to leak those videos because it is in legal act and if you have a security clearance that's jail time but what I am going to do is encourage the government to to try to find a way to to have them Declassified and release them for public consumption and that is something I will always encourage are we going to be surprised is there anything in there that's going to be more reactive than than what we've seen so far is there something that's going to catch our eyes that you know that could be coming out uh boy that's Dave that's a loaded question uh you know I suspect probably um you know without without you know telling too much I mean look at this has to be very very very carefully done and and you know I'm a very deliberate person I I try not to speak uh for the sake of speaking if I have something to say I'll say it otherwise I'm just going to be quiet and let others talk uh there's a lot going on behind the scenes a lot and I'll just put it that way well that's a good way to end it right before we got to go to break here at the bottom of the hour leaving us with all pins and on pins and needles as we now have to wait for a potential really juicy video to come out and maybe a photograph we don't know but the man the myth and the legend in the UFO world is here tonight Luis Elizondo we have him for another 30 minutes here on spaced out radio and we're going to get into a lot of the good stuff that's coming up we got to get into the ig's what's happening with the Pentagon who's he going to drop an elbow on next because that first half hour was fiery Luis Elizondo another half an hour hour two Sean Cahill a jam-packed show here on spaced out radio as we talk UFOs and UAP all night long well you broke our record what's what's that monologue for Live on YouTube oh really yeah you're the new record holder I thought you're gonna save for a record for the most boring monologue no way so um excuse me I know we have a lot of new people who may not have seen our show live before I do want to remind people that if you're new here we are a live radio show that is going out to our terrestrial Affiliates and that is why we're taking a commercial break you get to see behind the scenes with everything that goes on oh 274 we just hit oh that's kind of cool I'm keeping track here because it's kind of a cool thing but uh I just want to remind you we are a live radio show as well as broadcasting Live on YouTube and twitch and uh Periscope and Twitter and and so I appreciate you understanding and if you're new here please do us a favor hit that subscribe button we'd really appreciate your love and your support here on spaced out radio and uh really appreciating everybody kind of tuning Us in figuring it out now I know there's been a couple of comments from new people in our room Dave you know get get your eyes on the camera why aren't you focusing on on Lou it's rude I'm a one-man show I am producing I am watching the clocks I am watching the chat room for what you guys are saying so that way I can put them on the screen I'm a one-man show so hopefully I'm not uh disappointing you guys too much but uh for the new people out there this is what we do on a nightly basis and uh do us a favor and show some support hit that subscribe button thank you Lou now I can breathe if if I can real quick too while we're on break um thank you for what you're doing thank you for your audience but I also want to thank the the group of people you mentioned this earlier you know behind every individual success there's a team of people behind that person that is that is is working Tire tirelessly behind the scenes and I have that I've got a I've got a core group of about five or six people that I consider not only my friends but my confidants and uh Sean Cahill is one of them uh I'll just say the first names uh so you know to protect the innocent but uh Jess and Jake and uh and Chris and few others that have been Been instrumental in in helping me um do this because no one person can do this uh by themselves and I can assure you and my success and and our success is directly related to to their help and assistance and they never get credit for this but I I want to let your listeners know that that everything you are seeing playing out today is is a direct result of of of the work that they've been doing tirelessly behind the scenes and I know a couple of those people and by the way Jess if you're tuned in I I have I will be emailing you tomorrow again in response to the email that you sent me uh back so thank you and yes I I've got to know uh Sean a little bit over the last few months here and I can attest I I think he's a pretty damn good guy yeah and I got a lot of respect for him and uh and like I said I'm jealous of his hair and beard combination but what am I supposed to do what am I supposed to do but we've got about uh two minutes here two minutes the audience is absolutely loving you I'm trying to get as many I don't know if you could read them down there but I'm trying to get as many uh messages uh from them to you here well I I certainly appreciate it you know I I look I I look to your audience for for strength all the time and uh and same with with uh the folks on Twitter you know I've developed a pretty pretty strong personal bond with with the the UFO Twitter ethos if you will uh and every person on there um you know I wish I had a chance to thank every one of them um I do read all their comments um I make sure that I do um even the ones that aren't very nice I think it's important to hear everybody's opinion so so thank you all for for contributing to the conversation and and being part of this I got to admit that was the first time in that last half hour that I've ever seen you fired up and I I like it I like that seeing that side of you and and I think it really humanizes you quite a bit you know I it's good to see you have some emotion because I know for for a long time you got to be I I know what it's like to be in the media and you got to be the same way every time for everything and I think you showing some relaxation and and just showing some emotion I think it's fantastic thank you for doing that well Dave you know thank you for having the patience you know I've I spent a career with with these hands you know destroying people's lives uh in the name of National Security and I really am trying to spend the last half of my life trying to to put human beings back together again and we're gonna do that we're gonna do this I try not to to get get you know animated too much but right one second here my friend because we're gonna get going here in five seconds thank you to the super Chatters out there and here comes the second half hour of spaced out radio right now [Music] second half hour of spaced out radio is underway my name is Dave Scott thank you so much for taking the time to join us we really do appreciate earning your listening ears wherever you are in this beautiful planet we call Earth we want to remind you that if you missed portions of this show or others check out our free archives by going to youtube.com forward slash spaced out radio do me the favor hit that subscribe button our website is spacedoutradio.com we have a plethora of features for you including rocking out to bumblefoot and reading up on Captain shirk's Sor newswire follow us on Twitter at spaced outradio and on Instagram at spaced out radio show Luis Elizondo is here we have until the top of the hour and Lou I want to ask you about these ig's we had Daniel Sheehan on last night and basically Daniel said Lou can come out and say whatever he wants about this because it's all under control it's all happening do you feel a sense of conviction by going through these ig's and and taking on the powers that be well you know uh I appreciate Mr Sheehan saying I can say what I want but there's a difference between saying what what I can say versus what I should say and so uh I want to make sure I try to remain as constructive as possible Vindication is nothing uh that uh that was never a motivation I didn't get into this to be Vindicated um you know does it feel good truth be told Dave I haven't had a chance to relax for even a moment long enough to to look at what that means um I'm too focused on the next Target I'm too focused on the next uh Milestone um you know Ever every every ground every mile that we gain uh is is ground uh for for disclosure and and I don't want to lose that ground I want to keep the momentum and so if I were to just sit even for for a few moments and sit back and say oh gee wow look you know uh I'm Vindicated um you know it's it's precious time lost you know maybe I suppose at some point in the future when when I uh you know I I'm not doing this and someone else more competent and capable is doing it uh which I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that can do it better than me uh then then maybe I'll sit back with a glass of wine or a beer and say wow golly you know that that it feels nice but I haven't had that luxury yet um I'm too focused on on on you know moving the ball down the field why did you feel that it was important to file these ig's well look um the Inspector General is is there for a reason they are an oversight body and they report directly to the Secretary of Defense they are the right mechanism to do an internal review uh if there is dysfunction in an organization and you know I've said oftentimes before I I'm doing my best to make the system work before I go in and I have to break furniture and and you know do things like that I'm not I don't want to do that um will I sure I will absolutely do what I have to do to make sure that this conversation continues and I've had a lot of people come to me and say well Lou you know I should have heard that you you might run for Congress well you know what you pushed me hard enough I I damn sure will uh you know I there's a lot of problems right now in the government this is just indicative of one but but there's about a hundred of these issues that we could talk about for the next year and nobody's doing a damn thing about it and look you know you guys are you're you're paying whether you're in Canada or here in the United States look we you pay your tax dollars you trust your government to do the right thing and to represent your interests and when the government forgets that well the government no longer realizes it serves the people right the people don't serve the government then we've got a serious problem on our hands and and you know sometimes like I said before a real Patriot sometimes has to do things that don't seem very patriotic uh but but you do them because it's the right thing because you do love your country and you love your love that your citizens and you love what this whole idea stands for I put my life on the line and I saw people die for the for for that for that dream and that that you know if you will that that Spirit of what this country stands for and when there are people there that forget that oath and forget what they are there to do and instead take their responsibilities and instead uh uh they they they they they prioritize privilege over over responsibility then then yeah I've got an issue with that I I don't care where that where that lies I don't care if that tyranny lies in the Middle East or in the jungles of South America or or in the halls of of the Pentagon it's it's got to be rooted out that's that that that no longer represents the will of the people and so as long as as that dysfunction function exists I will continue to commit myself to fight it because I don't think people realize in some cases how dysfunctional it is there there are a lot of things that work well and I'm not saying we go in there with a blow torch and and you know melt the whole thing down what I'm simply saying is that there are elements there that are absolutely broken and they're broken really bad and and we need to we need to go in and fix them and sometimes that takes a very hard conversation uh but but you have to do it and so that's you know that's it's a commitment and I don't know how to explain it to somebody who's never felt that way before I'm not expecting everybody to I come from a long line of revolutionaries maybe that's the problem my grandfather was a revolutionary my father was in the Bay of Pigs you know I and was a pow of course I I was in the military and and saw my fair share of conflict um you know maybe maybe it's just in my blood I don't know but I I feel very passionately about it I I feel that the people deserve better I want to ask you about your ndas that you have have people on the inside who you are trying to get onto the disclosure side of everything come at you and threaten you about your ndas yeah absolutely and in fact they uh I want to be careful how far I go down but yeah there's there's people that are definitely trying to to conduct administrative terrorism on me what we call admin terrorism trying to find loopholes uh in the policies and rules and procedures to say oh gotcha Lou you know you said something you shouldn't have uh and try to jeopardize my security clearance and you know try to bend the rules and policies to say oh Lou you know you didn't you didn't follow rules and policies when really in reality they're the ones not following the rules and policies uh so you know it I have had people conduct retribution and abuse their Authority and power um to to do that when I was into government I never would have dreamed of doing that we we focused our time and attention on the enemy not not whistleblowers not not people inside the system that were trying to make it better and now that I'm out of the out of the mud longer in the government um although I I Affiliated to some degree um I still have my clearance um you know they're still trying to trying to uh to get to come after me and and I resent that because if they're gonna do that to me Dave look they're they're going to do it to somebody else at least I have the resources and the will to fight it uh because I I really don't like bullies very much um but uh there's people out there that don't don't have that capability and and they just get steamrolled and uh you know I I I I I won't stand for that is maybe this is too personal is it political parties that are maybe segregated in this topic is it the military offices that are segregated trying to shut you up or is it just a a group of people who you know we as you said on the last time you were on this show this is a divided topic you got 50 who don't want anything to do with this you got 50 who say let's get it out there so is it is it political at this point I think it's everything I think it's political I think it's psychological I think it's sociological I think it's philosophical uh I think it's it's uh uh bureaucratic um I will tell you for the most part there's there's probably three or four individuals primarily that that I'm aware of that have have gone well above and beyond uh have what I would consider dereliction of Duty um that have uh used their their their their positions uh in a non-authorized manner uh and it's it's unfortunately it comes down to just human traits uh that little devil that every one of us has inside of us uh whether it's Pride or ego or or anything else um that says hey you know I should have known about this program and I didn't and so therefore since you didn't tell me um I'm gonna make your life complicated you know um not realizing there were reasons why I couldn't tell certain people about this program um but that will that will all come out in the wash I can assure you at some point this is all I suspect will will will will come out and everybody's going to get it that the public will ultimately be the jury here right and they're going to see for themselves what transpired okay for you as you move forward are you being protected by people in the Pentagon or higher up in government to make sure that you could keep speaking there are some very good people some very influential people that have helped out first and foremost Senator Harry Reid Bar None uh I will also say uh without going to specifics uh you know one of the individuals I respect greatly has always been secretary Jim Mattis uh General Mattis and and he um he was in a position at one point who he could have he could have completely buried this whole thing and and he didn't uh he did he did absolutely the right thing and there were other people that worked for him that came out to my defense and and and and stated for the record behind closed doors what what this program was about and what we found and and what my role was and so there are there are good people there Senator Marco Rubio uh you know I don't know what anybody's political leanings are I tend to be rather apolitical myself but you know he's a hero for coming out out I mean the guy's got a lot to lose and he is sitting here going out on the limb and telling everybody hey this is a real topic forget about politics forget about conservatives and liberals and all that stuff for just a moment just think of the notion that a human being is coming out who's got a lot to lose politically right who may even run for president one day and says you know what I'm willing to risk it to have this conversation that's someone that I can support again both on the liberal side conservative side both parties you know that that brings people together and you're seeing this coalescing right now this this Alliance of the Willing this Coalition of the willing to to ask the hard questions and and you see the media now people in the media who who two years ago wouldn't have touched this uh with a with a uh with a 10-foot pole and they're putting their careers on the line and they're saying you know what I'm willing to report on this knowing that it could it could end my my career in the media so you know this this journey is really that I'm on is really a journey that a lot of people on there's people in your audience right now that are having conversations around the water cooler who a year ago people thought they were crazy and now people are coming up to them and saying Hey Joe hey Jane uh listen remember that conversation you had with me last year was that real I mean I'm seeing a lot of stuff on the news do you mind sharing a little bit with me how how do you know what can I read where can I start to learn about this right so this is this is why I said this is really becoming a a this is really becoming a movement a global movement that we're all part of you know no one owns the narrative no one owns this I'm right now on Center Stage but but I can assure you I'm not the guy in front because when I look to my left and I look to my right I see millions of people this is We're All in This Together We are a united front and this is what I keep trying to tell people it's not about me it's about us it's about we it's about ours this is our journey this is not Luis elizondo's Journey this is this is this is something that that concerns every one of us the same differently and yet the same we have 10 minutes we got to talk June 25th 29 days this is going to be either delayed we're either going to be disappointed or we're going to be in a one holy cow moment I know the last time you were on you were expressing concern that there isn't enough time for this full report to come out do you still feel that way now or is it coming out no matter what uh look uh if the report comes out uh I'm just just brace yourself it's it's not gonna be what people expect um it's because a lot of things there are organizations that I've talked to back channel that said we were never even asked we weren't asked even though this is something that went through the dod and the dni I have colleagues that are still in saying I never saw a a single request come across my desk and I'm the guy who's got data right so uh I think I think that's important you know I just if I can address this real quick someone says here did Lou notice the laughing and snickering at the White House Press you know what I noticed I noticed um an elected official laughing when they were asked about this topic and uh let me just say for a second here um I I personally don't give a damn who you are okay you if you in any position you are elected to represent the will of the people that is your job point one two we have restricted airspace in this country for a reason and if you think it's a laughing matter that we have things that are flying in restricted airspace and there's nothing we can do about it fine but then you might as well get rid of all the restricted airspace we have who cares if planes fly over the white house because you know what it's restricted airspace and you don't care so I'm not sure that same type of of laughter that people have would be the same if these things were flying over Washington DC okay I think you'd have a completely because now now it's on their Turf now it's on their territory what they don't realize is that our our brave men and women in uniform are seeing these things and they're not that far away from Washington DC so uh you know laugh it up if you want but we we we take the the sovereignty of our country seriously um and so I would just say to anybody out there I I would encourage you not to not to laugh this topic off this is this is certainly not a laughing matter okay back to June 25th you know you're you're saying that we we shouldn't be prepared for anything because anything could really happen is there a chance that we could see President Biden address this subject after or before that date anything's possible I'm certainly not going to speak on behalf of the president the president has a lot of a lot of uh of uh issues he's dealing with right now and and by no means would I ever ever ever assume to know what the president is thinking or what he intends to do um that is certainly his right and privilege uh but um you know he's already been asked he's already been asked once uh the reaction wasn't quite what I was I was expecting or hoping for but then again I'm not the president um you know but uh this is this is for me this is this is why I want this is why I want change um it doesn't matter if we are talking about in this case uaps or we're talking about uh some sort of climate change issues and we're talking about the environment we're talking about anything else you know these aren't laughing matters you know there's there's a lot there's a lot at stake and uh I understand that that tends to be the first reaction of a lot of people is just kind of chuckled a little bit because you're uncomfortable answering a question I got it I'm not saying you can't be you can't be uncomfortable what I'm saying is you have to be as honest you have to be truthful and uh that's my you know that's my two cents if you will maybe three okay maybe a personal question I'm gonna ask it anyways because I be silly if I didn't have you addressed President Biden I have not addressed our president President Biden I have not vice president uh I you know what I'm going to stop there I I don't want to um out of due respect to anybody in the executive branch in the legislative branch um I I don't want to I think at some point if if we go down this this line of questioning I'll probably uh I'll probably get put into a spot I'm not going to feel comfortable answering that's fine so just out of respect for them and I hope you respect I have to ask the question yeah no no I don't take it personally don't take no no I'm not I'm not angry I just you know I I want to make sure that I I just I'll put the barrier up there and uh you know hopefully we can oh absolutely we have five and a half minutes with you tonight Lou and I and I appreciate that at any point do you see in the next 25 days that there is going to be any sort of of government get together because this is a bipartisan event or other countries coming on board whether it's Canada the UK Australia allies of the United States coming together and and starting to support this entire cause Dave that's a great question um that's a great question and probably ask me in three months if you catch my drift that would be a hint people that would be a hint because I've been known to leave Easter eggs when I do these chats so that's that's a pretty obvious one I think well maybe four months but but you know certainly uh in the not too distant future I'll I'll tell you why I asked that I I got really pissed off the other day Lou when I was watching A CTV Canadian television reporter have a great 12-minute interview with your good friend Chris Mellon and not once did that reporter ask anything about the Canadian military or the Canadian government's involvement with this subject it was straight on the U.S here you have I know you've been interviewed by Canadian television and media outlets and here Chris has now as well you have a reporter from a country talking about everything that's happening in the states and forgets the country that they are living in and where they come from because it's an easier conversation to have remember because now you're reporting on someone else's information the moment you start talking about your own country that that gets personal and and now there's there's some sense of ownership and liability there so uh they that's deliberate because as long as we talk and look the US is already talking about so I can ask the U.S uh it's a lot different it's a big it's a different story when you you take that story home and you start asking those same questions to people in your own country and that's not just a Canada thing that's a U.S thing that's a most countries are kind of that way it but do you you obviously see this is starting to become International this is becoming a world issue now not a United States Navy issue or an American airspace issue that was your goal all along yeah it's never been a U.S issue it's always been a global phenomenon but the conversation had to start somewhere and we needed you know a country that that could lead the discussion and let other countries know it's okay like now you see Japan coming out and entering into agreements with the United States on this topic and there's a handful of other countries that are now stepping forward and testing the waters and I suspect they they you know they have a UAP issue of their own um you know someone someone had to step forward someone had to be the first one to say okay I'll I'll I'll take the stick on this um and uh you know it it just happened to to be us but there's other countries out there in South America and Europe and and other places that that treat this topic completely different uh they they they look at this topic very very seriously I had a chance to go see Uruguay in in Argentina and uh Peru and some of these other countries and they definitely you know they they definitely take these topics very seriously and they have the government's support and funding behind it so in many ways you know they're they're they're significantly ahead of us two minutes to go with you what can the public expect from you and the message before June 25th wow uh I think you can expect me to keep fighting you can expect me to keep hollering and Howling and uh as I said before the the more the more people try to muzzle me the louder I'm gonna be um you can expect that that hasn't changed um I will continue to to try to to to use this system to the best that I can uh with the processes that are in place so the system can work I I don't want to break this system I want to fix the system and there were mechanisms internal to the system that that can be used to try to fix it um I I hate to tear the engine out and do a complete overhaul if all I have to do is maybe change a couple spark plugs you know here and there so um I'm I'm trying every exhaust every possible opportunity that I can um in order that we we get resolution on this topic at any point does that discussion switch from military to the public with the sightings yes look at some point this this topic is is only involves the military and the intelligence Community from a national security perspective the other eighty percent of this conversation shouldn't even be in the government's hands it should belong to the to the citizens of the world we need our academics and we need our scientists and we need our theologians and we need our philosophers and we need to have our teacher we need everybody in the conversation I don't I don't want the government determining for me how I should think about this topic you know who the hell screw you that's not that's that's not their job you know they do our bidding not the other way around and I damn sure I'm not going to give the government the the authority to think on my behalf and tell me how I should think about this topic their job should stay a nice neat little box their job is to determine is this a national security threat yes or no anything above and beyond that it ain't your job it's it's not we need to get other people involved in the conversation Mr Luis Elizondo thank you so much for a quick one hour with you on this show we look forward to having you on again in the future and and keep the push going keep the fight going for the public thank you Dave it's been my pleasure and thank you to your you to your wonderful audience uh I truly mean it um it I I am doing this because uh I I feel enjoined too I feel that they they give me the motivation every morning to wake up uh even if it's only after a couple hours of sleep and get and you know put my pants on and do this so thank you very much all right Luis Elizondo everybody coming up next we're going to continue the UFO conversation with the greatest hair and beard in ufology right now Mr Sean Cahill will join us when we come back hour two of spaced out radio continues right after this [Music] you hammered my record my old record was 248 live and we get hit 355. oh wow thank you thank you I appreciate that Dave my my pleasure and uh again sincerely thank you to you and your audience um I I really do appreciate it it's this is a privilege for me to have this conversation I've told people before uh I do I do major media outlets and I do podcasts that have one follower it's not a matter of people who follow or subscribers to me it's it's just about having the conversation uh with with everyday ordinary people like myself and and letting people know that that they do make a difference they can make a difference you know what I mean so appreciate you yeah no worries we'll talk soon go get some sleep oh yeah you got it I gotta be up again but we'll do thanks much take care all right Mr Luis Elizondo everyone Sean Cahill look at that hair and beard combination people look at that Sean I'm just gonna step away for a minute here uh I'm gonna put you on Blackout I'll be right back okay sounds good all right be right back public be right back what foreign foreign foreign hey buddy how you doing good how are you doing brother I'm good remember YouTube can hear us yeah all right wow that was powerful yeah that that was invigorating man he was on fire that um I didn't expect that I didn't expect that that emotion that it's nice to see uh him humanized it's been a hell of a week here's a comment look at the Beards good gods oh yeah that's the way we roll dirty filth it's the way we roll I'm in the wrong window that's why I'm confused there we go hey now we're live all right fantastic stuff fantastic all right we're going to come back here in 30 seconds I want to say thank you to everyone who has hit that subscribe button tonight everybody who's hit rang that Bell thank you to all our new subscribers for tuning in thank you to all of our regulars who are here every night hanging on out we really do appreciate it and of course thank you to all the super Chatters out there who have uh hit that Super Chat button we really do appreciate it here on spaced out radio and enjoying this show and this broadcast to you the UFO uh Continuum continues here with Sean Cahill and like I said the best hair and beard in the business right now I know he hates that but I'm gonna I'm going there that's what I do that's what I do so I appreciate you you uh stepping on in here my friend and uh by the way thanks for a great conversation yesterday it's got me doing some thinking yeah okay we spent longer on the phone than we are in the air so oh yeah oh yeah here we go you're listening to the spaced out radio with Dave Scott follow Dave on Twitter at spaced out radio and on Facebook's spaced out radio show here we go with our number two of spaced out radio tonight my name is Dave Scott thank you it's for taking the time to join us we really do appreciate earning your listening ears we want to say thank you to everyone tuned in on our terrestrial Affiliates around North America and 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recently with Chris Cuomo on CNN and other major news outlets Sean thank you so much for joining us it's always a pleasure to be here with you Dave how you doing I'm doing really well really well I I was a little caught off guard by the emotion that Lou was showing in that first hour because usually he's very he's very uniform he's very upright he's very honest with his with his answers he's watching what he's saying but tonight this I'll be honest with you first time I've really felt him release emotionally and and that kind of caught me off guard you know I don't think by any stretch that we've we've won the war um but we've made some we've taken some territory that I don't think we're gonna have to give back and um I feel like that's the first time that that's happened possibly in this subject so I think some of the emotion you're seeing from us isn't just the the fatigue from the operational Tempo that we're keeping with the media hits um I think it's also because we're we're giving ourselves just a little bit of room to feel the possibility of a success uh not long enough to to lose sight of the Target and the um the pitfalls that are in our way but um you may be seeing a little bit of us uh of us allowing the possibility that this is going to work the people are going to listen you have all of a sudden decided to step out and become one of the faces of this entire program and as I stated just moments ago you've been on CNN and other media Outlets talking about this subject why have you decided Sean to all of a sudden take that step and and move forward in front of the media camera frankly it's it's kind of a path of least resistance um I assist I've assisted a lot of our projects in the past some of the ones that have recently been on television and assisted producers and staff behind the scenes and a lot of times it'll begin with them wanting to interview me and I'll often actually talk them out of it because there are there are more impactful stories and and people to talk to in those shorts in a short amount of time so I end up helping um helping them understand the landscape that perhaps they've never seen or taken seriously before but what you're seeing now is the fact that this has opened up so much that um this isn't you know I've said in my tweets you know folks and I know you say why now too but the why now you and I both know we've been working on this for a long time the why now is because we finally got in front of the camera in in this fashion okay for people who may not be familiar with you you were on the USS Princeton when this event happened in 2004 had you seen a UFO previous to that or was this your first instance of being in contact or seeing this type of phenomena um at the time I I had considered myself someone who had seen UFOs before um I didn't consider myself someone who who knew what those were or anything um I felt like um I hate to say it like this but I felt like a normal person I'd seen stuff that I couldn't identify I'd had some weird experiences um now after spending three years completely living in this subject 24 7. um I realized that I've had an interesting life I think a lot of people might say um you and I have talked about a little bit of it I don't want to go too in depth into it until this uh this subject is is safely ensconced in Academia and we have a permanent structure around us um to but yeah I'm I've seen stuff so for you seeing this come out and seeing the way that this is now rolling did you ever think that you would be at the Forefront of this entire publicity uh of the publicity stunt of the UFOs I hate to call it a stunt but it's just you know that's kind of what it is right now with everything that's going on I understand where you're coming from and I can understand why people would say that I mean us as as quote unquote insiders know that this has been a great deal of effort to get off of the circuit and out of the niche and and to get in front of people with a serious conversation but um no um this is a subject that I enjoyed when I was a child um it's a subject that after the Tic Tac I kind of put on the Shelf because I had taken a different approach than a lot of people do after their sightings I've become more of a materialist I kind of denied it um but to think that this would be my job my passion um frankly my life I mean I don't really talk about anything else it's actually kind of a problem so um it's no I'm I'm blown away I don't think about it I just kind of try to respond okay now now let's get into it because there's a real human side to this and there is a this is a topic and there are very few Sean that will affect every person on this planet this is one of them when it comes out that whatever these things are whether they're from the stars or whether they're from Russia or China that this is happening there's new technological advancements how do we get people involved how do we get people in the know in understanding that this phenomena whatever it is is out there and we need to start accepting it well Lou talked about myself and a couple of our friends being there to support him and we've started something um in the background and part of one of our what we call verticals for that is is education it's Outreach it's education and it's uh we're creating what's called a primer uh in our in our organization where we've taken sightings military sightings sightings that are verifiable that have um you know enough uh triangulation and points of data that they were they were they were ensconced in the record as being unknown and we want to give people a better understanding that though that there may have never been an overarching entity in the government that could look at this from the 50 000 foot View and understand it as we start pulling people up or excuse me start pulling information out of these stove pipes there's a picture to be seen already even before the uaptf gives its report out there is a pragmatic way to look at this and create a timeline and an understanding of at least what we known in the last 50 years okay so for the public who may not understand and I have been very passionate about this lately and I know you and I have had this discussion off the air I am actually worried Sean about the public perception okay because I don't think people are prepared to find out what this reality is we're two insconds in our own Lifestyles with the 2.1 children the the house with the mortgage of the dog the two cats and the the vehicles of the driveway and whatever toys and vacations we could take we aren't really looking at the bigger picture here and that's something that you always have to remind me is Dave look at the bigger picture it but I'm part of that public too who is trying to but I haven't got it yet but there's millions of people just in North America alone who haven't even tuned into this subject yet you know is there a reason that we should be concerned about anything once this goes public if all of a sudden you know whether it's after June 25th or a couple years down the road we see that you know people starting to talk and the president of the United States Maybe baby stands up at the podium and says my fellow Americans we are not alone you know I mean this is reality that we're talking about our potential reality I used to think for a long time that that the and I know we're in general we're talking about the American public or Western Society or however we want to we want to phrase it um if we're talking about the whole world too that's fine but um in this Society I used to think that we couldn't handle it I used to think the same thing that you did that we were way too caught up in our in the minutia of our daily lives the Buddhists call it monkey mind um you know runaway train mind where you know you're just reacting constantly but the one thing that's kind of changed my mind on that is um is the fact that number one most of the major religions seem ready to like hang their shingle out and um and and own this subject um and so that that immediately tells me that there's a certain portion of the population that's going to be ready already if if those institutions are willing to Pivot if the Vatican is willing to have the conversation already and they're just quietly waiting on the sides and these other institutions are ready then they already have a belief system that's wrapped around this now I believe in a separation of church and state I know not every country in the world believes in that but I whatever my thought processes and beliefs are I I could never imagine pushing those on another person and creating National or International policies based on a belief system so that's one of the reasons that I I preach not to mix all these metaphors but that I preach so much about us figuring this out on our own not taking too many people's word for things and I'll cut right to the chase you you and I talk about where the experience or Community interfaces with what I see is like now the prime time subject the one that we were willing to talk about in front of in front of everyone and we still need to find out where those two things meet but it's that's where the um that's where I think I've told you before I'm concerned that it's going to get confusing because a lot of people who who are experiencers consider themselves to know what's going on and I've told you before one of my concerns is the fact that I can rarely get a few of them in a room and have any of them agree so it's we're going to have to figure out what that means why do we why do we have so many narratives in the community that have belief systems wrapped around them and then you know a lot of it is there's a lot of clubs there's a lot of inclusiveness to it and I get that but we got to figure out what's real now okay so the question is what is real we know the phenomena is real do you know we hear all the time whether it's Lou whether it's Chris melon or others talking about we don't know if it's Russia or China we don't know if it's an adversary elsewhere are we getting closer to the fact of narrowing down who what where when why when it comes to these crafts that are being seen well I I think so um I think some of us would be willing to say that some of these are definitely not China and not Russia I know will or excuse me lose willing to say that that in some cases that's pretty obvious to us I think what we're what we're seeing here is a conflation of the fact that in these 10 and 15 minute hits and even shorter on on media you know we have an hour to talk here but when you see something shoved in the media and you've got five videos in a montage over a course of 10 seconds a person like Chris Mellon is is gonna know those are playing right there and know that what he says is going to be construed to apply to what's on the screen and all of these things you know if we could focus on one thing at a time you know we're not there yet in in multimedia they don't know the names of these things Beyond Roswell they haven't heard of Randall shim they haven't heard of collarus they haven't heard of all of these you know interesting and different pla you know famous sightings that ufology has heard of all they know is Tic Tac Gimbal and go fast so we're gonna I think we're gonna get there um I think the public is ready for Prime Time disclosure um the spectrum of the psychology that's going to end up surrounding this 20 years from now I think our understanding is going to be very different so are they ready for the full Suite of the psychology no but I don't think our society operates that way I mean we got people that are very uninformed and unaware of the World At Large we've got people and tribes across the world that don't even know that the other continents exist for the most part you know we're we're a very diverse species those of us who are hooked into the internet constantly think we got it going on but I've spent some time out in the wilderness in the last five months and um I'd be pretty darn happy turning all this stuff off and never thinking about it again I don't know if I would ever think of UFOs ever again if I turned it all off I don't think you could stay away I don't I've been told that by other people too I don't because in the end okay you have seen UFOs before or UAP whatever you want to call them and I think that you are like me and every other experiencer and I'll put the onus on us as experiencers that you want to know what you saw you want to know what happened like I know for me you know when when I was with Samantha Moet and and had the sighting that I saw I want to know what that is I know I wasn't hallucinating I know Samantha wasn't hallucinating because we saw the same thing and there are thousands tens of thousands of people just like me and Samantha or and in our people in our chat room who have had these experiences that we just want to know why me why why will we ever get that answer is that answer even out there or is this just the tiniest step in a longer process that'll last way beyond our lives that the answer maybe 100 200 1 000 years from now will finally come out I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna risk something here I'm gonna tell a story to answer you okay all right we were going for a hike we were out in uh on the edge of the Bureau of Land Management we're gonna be hiking a couple of miles into this Valley uh chatting about about work and we were taking some time off to catch some fresh air as we pulled up in a big black truck all black Matt truck and we're pulling in through this herd of about a hundred beautiful black cattle okay we pull up and we park and as we're we're driving through directly through the center of these cattle they're five or six feet away they're all very very chill only like two of them out of 100 are looking at us and I'm taking note of this and now we stop when we get out of the truck those two are still looking at me the other the other 100 are not and I realized they don't even know we're there they didn't even notice the truck but only two of them did now then I got kind of snarky man because I realized oh my God that's us when we see UAP now I decided to have a mass sighting out there so I cut my hands around here like this and I went to the whole valley now I had a hundred cattle looking at me okay and all of those cattle were scared the two that were looking at me before no fear in their eyes when that move stopped ringing in the in the valley all the other cows went back to chew in their cut the two Fearless ones were still looking at me so I I think if we can see that there is a level of of existence below us that we interface with that we don't even understand and let's let's not even bring in the fact that we're going to eat those things and drink their milk later tonight okay right there's a whole there's a whole level of there's got to be a whole level above us that comes in and out of our experience in the same way it happened for those cows so I think sometimes that's what we're experiencing and I don't know how we're going to get those answers because I can stand there all day and tell the cows what's happening but they ain't hearing it well and that's that's a great analogy of the way we do it but I mean it also also shows the herd mentality that humans are that we're not going to you know if it's outside of the NFL or up here in Canada the NHL or the NBA or or our latest musical genre or whatever we're not really interested we're so focused on looking at our phones we're so focused on our own personal lives that we're forgetting to even look up at the stars that was one of literally one of the last arguments I had with with a beloved family member of mine before we we stopped talking as much was because when I tried to I pointed at the television and there was a football game on you know we were pouring wine it was around Thanksgiving and everybody was gossiping and I basically said look I don't care about this crap anymore I don't care about this crap and I don't care about this crap we're talking about there's something larger afoot and not enough people are paying attention to it and I got the headlights look you know the deer in the headlights look because it was like what do you mean you don't care about all of this this is what life is and I go I used to think that too right but yeah so okay so as we got about four and a half minutes before we got to go to break at the bottom of the hour Sean as we start to wake up the herd mentality and people are paying attention we're starting to see a lot more I mean I was laughing a week ago when I saw Oreo cookies tweeting out about UFOs that's a good thing that's what we need is that the goal right now is to get these people who would normally not talk about this whether it's the Oreo cookies whether it's the the Cleveland Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield people talking about this subject regarding how it is real and it's around us is that the goal right now I think that's an outstanding goal right now um for me one of the goals has always been to try to make it relevant to the people I'm talking to you know um and even if it's just if it's just that little you know breaking the thin veneer of the societal Norm you know by Oreo and by I think there was an airline that that um I saw recently one of the airlines my wife and I used was had a had a UFO in there in their ad and they were I think it was for flights into Nevada um so I I think that's okay it's we're not we're not the destigmatization will carry a certain degree of normalization now I think we all expect there to be some kind of Gold Rush surrounding this you don't even have to get into the technology before you realize there's going to be alien faces and alien keychains and you know we can expect it you know whatever the new fidget spinner is it's going to be related related to UAP but at the same time there's going to be a still a serious conversation to have so I'm not afraid of normalization I'm not afraid of this turning into another societal piece of the machine for Humanity but the big answers still need to come out of this okay so the fact that we're going to see more people talking about this it is healthy it it allows it to grain into our heads much like you mentioned with the cows and as Lou goes forward as we see more people talking about whether it's late night hosts or the media or whomever is the message going to change soon even before June 25th because right now it doesn't matter whether it's President Obama or Chris Mellon we're hearing the same narrative on each show about what they are you know how they're flying the trajectory the propulsion systems it just seems to be the same wording over and over again will that change I think that if that changes it's going to change based on the data that's presented because what you're hearing over and over again is based on the data points that we can prove that have a record that have triangulation and that are that are unclassified now if the uaptf comes out with a lot more information for us I believe that'll change the conversation if other entities within the government are found to have been collecting data and it's data we weren't familiar with or it's data that is a paradigm shifter um of course the the conversation is going to change but there's there's not a script anywhere there's not a it's week seven we're gonna now we're pushing uh I mean I set that 100 to a thousand year comment the other day and I've really bit my tongue since then because it I've been quoted as the government and I'm not I'm a dude with an opinion that I was asked but now I understand just how much of a sword that is you're wielding when you're on CNN and fox and ABC Etc so this is heavy man we need to really open our eyes as adults and and grown-ups and as a society and decide are we gonna are we gonna treat this the right way you know it's this isn't the British Invasion this isn't the Beatles it's not the next fad whether whether it's going to look like it or not to a lot of people it's reality how do we know you know I'll save that question for for when we come back for the break because we only have about 30 seconds here in the end when it comes to a quick answer for me when it comes to June 25th are you are you expecting anything juicy out of that no I'm more interested in what I'm not going to see if I get a negative report at least I know how I have to up my game um I I don't I don't believe in free lunches and I don't expect presents on Christmas so yeah no I I'm ready for a nothing Burger but then I'm ready to I'm ready to turn up the gas well let's uh turn up the gas in the next half hours we got Sean Cahill as our Our Guest for the next half hour to round out hour number two in our UFO night if you missed the first hour with Luis Elizondo he dropped the gloves he literally dropped the gloves and you're going to want to hear that on the replay we'll be back with more spaced out radio right after this foreign [Music] yeah no I'm I'm quite happy man it was great seeing Lou fired up and seeing that passion oh yeah oh yeah one of these days I'm gonna screenshot you and then I'm just going to examine your background be like what's he got back there what do you want what do you want to see dude I don't know you got some guitars okay got a lawn gnome that's pretty awesome yeah that that was uh made by one of my listeners the Michael Leger and then I have my my Carl candles here oh yeah those are fantastic yeah uh I just added a new guitar to the collection it's uh it's getting uh tuned up right now though yeah I can tell by your by the music you listen to and the guitars you have the the style of you know the kind of guitar you play you know this style you like you're Steve Vai Satriani type of guy yeah what can you do what what can you do what can you do we're all we're all children of our of our times man yeah is it the handheld the keytart actually right behind you I got a set of rolling drums here in the middle of my uh an electronic set of rolling drums behind that a key uh midi keyboard it's it's half movie or half music studio in here you want to see something really cool I'll show you this is my baby gorgeous that's uh it's like a I don't know 10 pounds of sodalite oh wow it's got the eyeball on it that's really impressive right uh there very cool yeah this is my baby very nice yeah it's one of my little hidden gems in here it's awesome yeah if you could see this little rig that I have set up I just leave it out um and the wife and kids kind of watch TV around it but it's dude I'm in this little like cockpit of lighting and laptop right here nice nice uh we got about uh oh we got a we got a couple minutes yet the hell is my mouse there we go and uh yeah uh what else can I show you here what else do you like oh oh man I'm sorry I was about to talk some snack actually oh you could you could talk some spec no I was gonna talk some smack about the chat but I don't oh yeah what the hell what the hell they're big somebody's talking about Talking Heads and all this other stuff like that man get out of here oh oh I'll show you something cool here quickly see these cans mm-hmm okay uh these were recovered White Rock grape soda these are 50 years old and I actually on a ghost box talk about woo had a spirit say I could remove these from a crash site where 52 people died wow wow that's the only reason why I took them is because a ghost on a ghost box said yes I could take them dude EVP is um fun it's creepy it's uh I don't know man yeah my my personal jury is still out on it but I've had so much I've got some interesting interesting conversations that one tripped me out man yeah that one tripped me out probably the weirdest thing I have in here besides my hot besides my hot sauce bottle collection that you can't see I've got like uh I don't know like 40 bottles and I got another 20 upstairs you make your own it's really easy to make hot sauce no I I just make it too hot too stupid one day one day if this show ever blows up there will be a spaced out rate a spaced out hot sauce that's awesome yeah yeah it'll it'll be brutal too absolutely brutal all right sure it tastes good remember it has to taste good can't just be hot exactly exactly all right uh we've got about I think 35 40 seconds here and uh you do uh Gene wants to know quickly as we've got about 20 seconds uh which uh what instruments do you play uh guitar bass keyboard uh now drums and I I sing horribly excellent and how many piano key ties do you have zero they have on that one Sean just lied to us people he's got at least four here we go foreign we passed the halfway point of spaced out radio tonight my name is Dave Scott thank you so much for taking the time to join us really do appreciate earning your listening ears I want to remind you that if you've missed portions of this show or others check out our free archives by going to youtube.com forward slash space out radio just do me the favor hit that subscribe button our website is spacedoutradio.com where we have a plethora of features for you including rocking out to bumblefoot and reading up on Captain shirk's Sor news wire follow us on Twitter at spaced out radio and on Instagram at spaced out radio show we continue on the UFO talk tonight Sean Cahill is with us he is right front and center along with Luis Elizondo regarding the whole UAP phenomena Sean welcome back thanks Dave all right earlier right before the break we were talking about the people whether or not people around the planet have had are going to accept this entire phenomena as happening you're starting to change on that what is the attitude around the people you were talking to behind the scenes because as Lou stated in hour one this is still a very divided topic within the military branches within the government itself it's really interesting to see um professionals people that we didn't expect to be able to have this conversation to watch their their light bulb flip on pretty quickly um some of the some of the rational acceptance that I've seen um at the higher levels is pretty impressive actually and the ability to immediately shift into well now we have to look at what this means for us as Leaders leaders in society or government or military Etc and what does this mean how do we inform our our leaders above us and our constituency as to how to move forward it's so brand new um but it's so it's impressive it really is impressive because what I see behind the scenes has been a sea change it really has been um been something very very different from before I mean I've I don't like saying it like this because it feels like bragging but I hit five continents in the last week and I wasn't ridiculed on any of these shows uh by anyone whatsoever and that would have been unheard of even a year ago very true very true so so for you as someone who is fighting to get this phenomena out there what are we as the public missing leading up to June 25th what should we be looking for hmm what is the public missing well they're missing they're missing some key foundational facts that I think they're going to expect out of this report but if they had them first it would be a lot easier to understand and work with whatever it is we get it's that the UAP topic is real that it's been ongoing for quite a while that it's not a it's not a silly thing that was studied once in the 40s or 50s or 60s and then never studied again it's been ongoing it's a fact that these programs have have risen given us uh conclusions and then seeming to disappear and some of them popped out of nowhere and once we found out about them they just gave a quick report and got the heck out some of the early ones we know now like Blue Book were actually meant to really muddy the water a lot um others that came later if you look at them were obvious that the how fast they operated they were just put there to put some nice little hats on it and shut people up I don't know why but a lot of those things to include a timeline and continuity of events and and how this is maintained and changed over the years that's what people need to know about going into this because if we can get around the fact that this is real that's that's why I say disclosures already happened people it just wasn't the the bombshell people thought it was going to be and so you'll hear folks talking about confirmation so this is where we all we all really um we really we really come to the front of this and say okay this is what it is let's begin monolith has a question he says Sean you said in a tweet last year that the Tic Tacs were observed entering a lava tude or a Permian lava tube you're you're not saying that I'll I'll well let me let me clarify I said last year that the uh that the Tic Tac and I'll say it again right now the Tic Tacs were observed going into the water by Senior Chief Kevin Day on radar at a specific latitude and longitude in the course of investigating our mission to Guadalupe Island for the TV show unidentified on History Channel I I was asked to to find geomagnetic data for the mission we overlaid that onto a map and we realized that there was a geomagnetic anomaly at the northeast corner of the island now there's no other research on this the only thing is the only thing that I'm stating is that that lava tube and the way that Guadalupe Island was was created would most likely have created a a possibility of a lava tube or a bubble it's at the same coordinates I'm only saying that all of those things exist within the same spot now people then say Sean do you think they were no I don't know I can't I could guess all day and speculate but that would just be a science fiction story okay well let's lead to this question here and this one is from Arthur Sean mentioned that he would have to turn up the heat if we don't hear much from June 25th curious to know more about your tactics what do you mean by turn up the heat well no good warrior Reveals His tactics before a battle um not unless he has overwhelming Force he just wants to scare the hell out of people and that's not me um my tactics would just be to engage on items that I haven't engaged on before to to um point out things that might have been um uncomfortable for people had I pointed them out earlier a lot of things out there that um that will help this conversation already exist in the public domain and where the public can find them they've already been foyed for a lot of people out there and this isn't meant to be disrespectful a lot of people have been playing checkers with this we've got to play chess now because other people are playing chess to keep us from having this conversation does that include Usos as well well I'm a personal believer that if you're looking at a UFO you're looking at a Uso are we gaining any more range of where these craft whatever they are are coming from and I'm not talking from an alien sense are they coming from the skies are they coming through portals are they coming from the water or is it just everywhere they're coming from well I think uh everything in water are the only two things I can point at right now um there doesn't seem to be an area on the earth that they haven't been cited over the course of history or that they don't operate they're often seen around water um I don't know if that's because of a property of the water of something that is in the water of the fact that it's just uh for the most part far away from uh from from you know big cities and people and things like that but obviously where you look at we where we interacted with the Tic Tac that is our operational training area and and pleasure boating area and all of these other things down here so that's that's a major concentration of people so they're not hiding there um I don't want I don't want to speculate too much or have people assume that I know but there's um they're here when they're not here I don't know where they are um but they're out in the ocean a lot it sure seems Lou said earlier that there was more videos especially one that's I guess scheduled to be released or could be released that's going to blow the pants off a lot of people in regards to you know what they're going to see have you seen that video well I've never received any classified material I've never received any material that I didn't have a need to know and I don't currently hold a class of uh hold a security clearance um but I have seen things that I find very compelling I've spoken to uh gentleman like George Knapp um and he has expressed to me that there are more compelling videos out there um I'd like to see them with a chain of custody I'd like to see them released by the public affairs officer of the United States Navy or Air Force or or even the the dod Pao could be uh upfront and forthcoming and they could immediately release the videos that are already in the public domain with a proper chain of custody and all the data that goes along with them there's a lot of things that can be done but have have people who are quote unquote insiders are in the know seen things that that may change people's mind absolutely yes but are those are those things um are they classified and earth-shattering and what we're asking for to be revealed to us no it's not it's not quite like that but you haven't seen that video well there's a video out there that a lot of people think exists and they think they've seen it and they think they know what they're talking about nah I don't I don't know what that video is I don't have it I haven't seen it okay moving on here why are we not seeing the government release these videos why are they being leaked whether it's you know I know with when Lou got the three videos out when he was in that position before he joined ttsa and now we're seeing leaks go to George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell and God bless them for getting on out there because that does take a lot of trust in order to get those videos out but why haven't we seen that stream of these videos coming from the government or the alphabet agencies themselves well I don't think we've seen anything come from the government or the alphabet agencies themselves that wasn't pried out by Lou's actions in the last few years and I don't mean to say that all of modern ufology rests on his shoulders but let's be real this was a non-subject and a niche subject and for the for the convention circuit with a few major hits every year and the question is is do we still need to maintain ufology after this or are we going to create a curriculum and an ash actual study with think tanks Etc um sorry I got off topic a little bit with that no I think you're going fine I think what we we just need to see a understanding here that now that this is real and I come back to this all the time now that this is real we need to come together and figure this out together if we rely on the United States government to give us our answers we're going to end up right back where we always have been because the United States government isn't an accountable entity it's it's a conglomerate of human beings and agencies and stove piping and and soup bowls and lobbyists and constituencies and completely different sociological needs and wants but once we have that overarching entity the rest of Society is going to go okay UFOs are real I'm going back to work I'm going over here obviously there's a lot of us that are going to continue that study we're going to we're going to apply ourselves to it but why isn't the government giving it to us who's in charge of UFOs well I mean do do we even know do we that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying is I don't think there's EV there's never been we've never we've heard these Rumblings throughout the last 50 and 60 years of things like mj12 and we don't even need to get into the the different wording around it we've heard of things like Aviary from different different researchers and we've heard about these groups within that that are trying to work with each other and you know and and figure out technology and have quiet conversations and still keep their funding in their jobs let's smash that let's find out who the courageous people were that were that were barely surviving within this system and still doing the the research people like Dr Hal pudhoff and other people in kit green and other people like that people who really carry the scientific torch for a really long time we need to get those guys on these shows we need to talk to them we need to say hey what were the challenges you faced how do we break the system and make this brand new and so it stays in the daylight because they're they're going to have those answers for us at any point in time and I'll ask you a hypothetical question within the next year two years are we going to see a change in the fact that we may not be alone and we may have been visited because I think a lot of the public wants to know Sean what about Roswell what about the aliens what about these crash recoveries what about the bodies we keep hearing these little Snippets of it and then the topic disappears whereas I think the public really wants to know where's them aliens you've seen me deflect the alien question a hundred times I don't even like saying the word I know you don't and it's way harder to do it on um on national news okay but it's so so to answer your question man I hope so I mean like you and like everybody else there's there's a handful of possibilities that most of us think that this can be while I might talk about it being a spectrum there's some obvious stuff we all expect to to be told to find out Etc um I really hope we get to find out some of that I really hope that that there's I can't imagine another if if we're here now the easiest thing for the United States government to do would be to truck out the honest-to-god truth of Roswell and I don't care if it's a balloon study and I don't care what it was I just just the honest to God's truth the real thing because we both know that that mylar balloon that was held in that picture and the telegram and the background and all of the crap that surrounds the whole rigmarole with the Bomb Group and the formation of everything dude Rich Dolan tells some amazing stories with his research he's an incredible researcher I don't dive into his research because it muddies the water for the people who've never heard of it but man we do got to start somewhere and Roswell is a heck of a place to start in your research as you've delved into this has there been anything with Roswell that you have learned recently yeah um I've learned that the feeling that the understanding and the beliefs at certain levels take Roswell just as seriously as the rest of us take this subject and that there are other sightings uh whether we're talking about um I'll go straight to rendelson for it rendelshim's taken very very seriously now whether there are the firm answers of origin craft type VIN number what kind of bucket seats does it have I don't know about any of that stuff but when the people at the high levels go oh yeah that that happened we don't know what the heck it was but that happened that's a big deal to me um as I said shortly after the Tic Tac uh incident to a friend of mine when I got back here and told them all about it I was worked up about it um he was like man that's a bunch of BS and blah blah blah there's all these sightings all the time they can't all be real and I was I told them I said man you only need one you only need one that's real for this to be just the most amazing news we've ever gotten um I might think it's obvious we're not alone in the universe but where's the proof man you know right okay so let's go to Nicole's question here uh John podesta says to move UFOs out of the Pentagon and into the White House Office of Science and Technology policy what is your thoughts on that Sean I think that's that's fine and dandy if you're willing to run the risk of having another Administration that just destroys science you know for four years and doesn't fund programs like that we need an entity that will never go away we need as Lou said a non-partisan entity one that can't be um can't be pulled back and forth by the the stupid pendulum of human politics pretty blunt there that's a that's actually a good answer good answer we have seven minutes here with you and I know I know it's been a long day for you and I and I appreciate you coming on in for hour two here you're a man of your word and and I I want people to know that that you know you and I do talk we we talk maybe once a week once every couple of weeks I try and leave you alone because I know you're busy but every now and again uh literally I will text Sean and say hey I need a hair and beard update let's get to it right now truth totally true oh yeah first thing you say to me when you call me I always go exactly you know but uh but but I mean it's a good Icebreaker and everything like that but you know I want people to know that I I think that you have been very upfront with me and we've had some very in-depth conversations that a lot of it has been off the Record and and I will keep it that way but a lot of it has been stuff that you've told me that we could that I should be focused on for the show in regards to this subject why when I when I look at at this entire phenomena that you're involved with and you're trying to get the message out how have you been able to to Parlay what you know and hold back from people like me even though you want to get it out and you want the public to know about it how have you been able to to keep yourself restricted on that I had a really good friend of mine um have me over to his house and he had another friend of his bring a friend over with them and they were some they were somebody who was very interested in climate change and um and the world and the state of the world and then how things were in the geopolitical situation and at the time I was pretty darn sure that I knew what the state of play was in the world uh in regards to UFOs and climate change and long-term history of the planet and all this other stuff and I had a pretty strong opinion and I was I was asked by one friend hey you should tell them all this stuff that you were telling me last time and I was like oh okay thinking it was just a conversation well what they wanted to see was me blow that person's mind and that's exactly what happened I changed the way somebody thought about the world and that's not what I wanted to do and I did that with my opinion I hit him over the head with it so hard it messed them up and they probably didn't sleep good the rest of that night you know and that wasn't even the big picture stuff like UFOs you know that we're talking about right now I saw somebody else have a negative psychological effect to my level of confidence and I promised myself that I was never gonna BS anybody ever whether it was with my passion or or hyperbole or anything else so that that's where that comes from man so I I'm I'm very careful because I care about the people I'm talking to well I appreciate that and and you know I I appreciate the relationship that you and I have uh started forming here as a friendship and and you know the fact that you you'll come on this show pretty much at any time I I appreciate that for our public here as we got about four minutes left you know what is your met I'll ask you I asked Lou this right off the at the end there and I'll ask you the same question what is your message to the public in regards to the next 29 days before June 25th I think it's I think my message is a measure of of calm in the fact that if you if we don't get what we want if our expectations are not met we're used to being disappointed by our government we're used to being let down what I don't want to see is us give up this is this subject is is too simply placed back behind a curtain and forgotten about and there are too few of us who have a good grasp of what of a framework of reality that we can drag out into the daylight not not Urban myth Legend 995 to hear it 140 to watch a zoom or something like that no man real stuff that's going to end up going in you know what used to be encyclopedias and dictionaries and reference books and it's going to be foundational to our future not nonsense not monetized future you know so I want us to arrive at actual honest to goodness truth with building blocks that aren't going to go away and I I think we've laid that Foundation I hope everybody will stick around long enough for us to really make this real and then we can get into the weird man I'm all for it you know I'm all for it I can't wait what should civilians do when they see a UFO what should they do when they uh have an experience or maybe get contacted what do you think they should do honestly leave your phone in your pocket I mean that's that's my that's my that's my advice to you period leave your phone in your pocket open your eyes take a deep breath consider what your state is at the moment open up your heart and observe you're you're the number one observer in your Universe you are the number one expert in your Universe if you're fumbling around with this crap and freaking out trying to get somebody to look with you and validate you forget that man none of us ever run inside and go I just saw a UFO and everybody goes oh my God that's amazing let's come outside and look to and talk about it and share your feelings that doesn't happen you know have your moment have your experience and take it in enjoy it this is your life this is your time stop trying to prove it well I I really appreciate that and over the next 29 days what are you going to be up to probably I mean I'm looking at my calendar across the room and I'm not complaining it's covered uh there there's there's a few podcasts on there from some folks from UFO Twitter that I that I promised I'd get them in there but the rest of it is um just a crazy amount of telling people the same story over and over again but that's okay because they haven't heard it yet um they need to hear it after that it's going to be preparing for the Fallout of whatever we get from the uaptf report um it's going to be we're going to be announcing our business at some point here in the near future and some of the the plans and um and educational opportunities that we have um the next few months the next six months are going to be a time of change in this society and on this planet that I think are going to be unlike anything we've ever seen before if we're willing to look in the right places and embrace what that change is willing to offer us well I look forward to you and seeing what you have to say and you know I'm gonna try and drag you back on this show after the 25th because you know hey I'd be stupid not to I really would I want to see you you know get your hair first if we're in for disappointment I want to see you get mad just like Lou did Sean thank you so much for coming on spaced out radio you got a lot of fans out there and a lot of people who are propping up your back lose back and everybody out there who is involved with this field and we really appreciate what you're doing man well we appreciate the support and the love right back so let's just keep it up thanks guys absolutely we'll talk to you soon Sean you hold on coming up next on spaced out radio let's turn it up a little bit because Gary shufield is going to join us we're going to talk the alien autopsy video nft is it worth a million bucks we'll find out next on spaced out radio stay tuned welcome [Music] foreign brother we are clear that is awesome good stuff man uh I know the way that uh you and I uh talked about this yesterday I think it went exactly the way we wanted I I think you understand me man I think you understand that I'm I'm I don't want to manipulate anything but I see I see the way the water flows down the hill sometime and I think it's the easiest way to get to the bottom absolutely and we'll talk soon though because I'll uh I'll give you a call tomorrow anytime all right all right brother take care brother I know bye-bye all right there we go Sean Cahill everyone much love to him much love to him and uh let's let's bring in uh Gary here hey Gary how you doing man I'm good how are you today good we're on a commercial break right now for another uh five minutes so I'm just gonna get darken you out here and I'll be back here in a couple seconds I just got to run out for a second okay no problem all right buddy hold on we'll be right back guys uh Gary shufield is our guest next so uh give me a minute I'll be back foreign everything thank you foreign let's do 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the nft market but before we get into that let's get into the alien autopsy video because there's a lot of people out there Gary who still believe that this video has been debunked that it was a hoax and there are still those who believe that this is the real deal that there was something from another planet or another timeline that was found and recorded as an autopsy what's your feelings on on this well I know it's real I've always known it's real I've been involved in it since day one I think the uh Revelations of the um email that or memo that was from kick green at the CIA confirming that the footage is real should satisfy people that that's what it is he even names uh calls it you know the ray santilly footage I think it's very clear if people think that he doesn't know what he's talking about then I don't know what kind of proof they're looking for so uh I've never had any doubts about its authenticity I'm pleased that someone other than Ray and myself have now confirmed that it's real and I'm very proud of that okay Gary for people who may not be familiar with it the UFO crowd or the ET crowd people who have an interest in this subject will understand or have already formed an opinion on it but for the people out there listening who may not know what the alien autopsy is give us a little historical background on this sure it was um uh originally I think around 92 Ray and I were in America ray met with the cameraman I wasn't at that meeting he saw the footage uh several years later he was able to acquire that footage sadly a lot of the footage was damaged but we were able to salvage one minute and I can't remember 16 seconds something like that um at the time we produced some additional footage to add to it which was done remarkably it matched exactly the footage that we had from the cameraman we put out what was around 18 minutes of footage we didn't tell people that we'd added footage to it at the time and then it was hugely successful all over the world um played in over 100 countries we did not make a show and sellers show we actually just sold the footage to the different broadcasters around the world and told them to make their own show they could try and debunk it they could do whatever they wanted but they had to be able to prove it no on the planet was able to prove that it wasn't real excuse me and um then in 2006 Warner Brothers decided to make a movie about it and we told them the true story and how we had added footage to it now we did it the movie is a more comedic version of events but the real footage was in there the real footage was edited into the 18 minutes I have a pretty good memory as to which bits were real and which bits were added but it's very difficult to tell for those watching it because it was um beautifully recreated restored as we as we like to call it um but the essence of the film The one minute 16 was always real and nothing and no one is ever going to change my view of that and as I say we've now got confirmation from a much higher source that the footage was real but we kind of knew that all along and that's a brief summary of events okay there was a report in the debrief where they allegedly talked to Kit green who said he was hoaxed by santilly what's your thoughts on this I have no see no proof of that whatsoever when the memo came out Ray and I were accused of actually planting it so we're used to people you know there's no story if they just agree with you for people who want to be negative about it or try and find holes in the story if they can't find them they'll create them or invent them uh whether that guy spoke to kick green or not I have no idea I haven't seen any proofs that he did I read the story but it really doesn't mean very much to me to be honest okay so you say that you have confirmation from higher sources that this video is authentic it is real the clip that you guys own what higher sources are those oh I'm referring to the the kit green memo that's a high source for me and a high sourced than Ray one that uh has no agenda and um that's why I think it should be trusted and I would find it very strange that the um uh memorandum which goes into quite some detail um that kit green would have reversed himself out of it having said that if kick green wants to publicly come out and say that he didn't uh doesn't support what was in that email then uh he has every right to do so but um I've never heard him do that personally okay so you have this video for people out there in radio land who may not have seen it before what are we seeing in the one minute plus clip that you guys have well it was uh the footage that was salvaged was uh well the first little footage that was Salvage was all the Aiden on the table being autopsids and um it's you know metro public record the footage has been out there for a very long time and it is what it is so that's what people see that's what the 18 minutes was which included the one minute and uh 16 odd seconds of original footage in it and um for those who don't know it they can see it on YouTube um it was used excuse me in the Warner Brothers movie as well it's been used in countless documentaries and countless top 10 hoax shows as well um but I suspect since the CIA memo it might not make as many hoax shows as it used to okay so this alien that's on the table here do we know which crash retrieval this allegedly came from no I mean it's referred to as the Roswell crash and um I don't know if any of us are really going to know all the detail about that but that's what it was referred to as that's well I've always been told it was from and I have no reason to disbelieve that okay so now all of a sudden the the new world of nfts has come out so explain to our audience who may not understand what an nft is what is it it's but it's effectively a digital copy of anything it's like a JPEG so uh if you own something very valuable and you decide to make a digital copy of it um you can sell that and it becomes the collectible in its own right depending on how you sell it so what we've done is we've taken one frame of the original film from 1947 and we have not only made an nft of that but we are also selling with the nft the actual original frame as well so whoever wins the auction will get um the actual frame of film and the nft and obviously copies of the CIA memo that went out although that's you know publicly available it's been on the internet for a while now and um I don't think we would have sold it if we didn't have the CIA paperwork to back it up because uh up to that point you know the the speculation about its authenticity has always been widely obviously debated now we believe that um less of an issue although some would uh still like to debate it and we believe it's um unique it's the the only nft of its kind it's actually the only alien artifact ever to be sold with any kind of verification that I'm aware of and we think it's um worth a lot of money a lot of money is one million dollars is the figure I'm hearing where did you come up with that we've all read about nfts reaching crazy numbers and um we believe we are selling something that is extremely unique and will have great value this is the only frame that will ever be sold it's not like we're going to sell another one next week or the week after this will be a unique piece that somebody will actually be able to physically own and um we'll be able to display and hopefully we'll be very proud of so the starting price is a million dollars where it goes to I really have no idea but we are hopeful that it will do very well what's the initial interest in the potential purchase of this nft because there's not a lot of people on this planet who have an extra million dollars to throw around even though we see art and sculptures going for multi-millions of dollars well I guess um people who have that kind of money who have already made purchases in that markets uh might see this as something that's tangibly more valuable I'm not here to comment on what's been paid for various things but I have seen huge amounts of money paid for things that I just don't understand this is a much easier thing to understand because the footage is very famous um it's something that we believe would be a fantastic addition to any collection and it only takes two people with that kind of money to bid against each other each other to um to see the price go up so we're not looking we're not expecting hundreds of bids from around the world because it is expensive but we honestly believe it's it's worth every cent or Penny of the country okay well we don't have pennies here in Canada anymore just so you know we're all nickels now we're all nickels now just a bunch of nickels okay anyways moving forward here Gary as we continue on here talking about the alien autopsy video we are talking with Gary shufield here tonight one of the owners of this film Gary for a million dollars the auction site where it will be held are there any preliminary discussions going on with potential buyers now it doesn't really work that way it's probably a bit more like eBay um people who do decide to bid I suspect I've never bought an nft so I'm afraid I'm not an expert in the area but I'm assuming that the people who bid remain anonymous and uh they're probably have no idea who's um following it who's looking at it who's got it in their diary for when the auction ends to make sure they don't miss it uh we haven't got a clue so uh we have no idea what will happen how well it will go um or even if it will sell so um yeah we're slightly Blind by that but we've had a really very good experience working with wearable who are of excellent and excellent site and have been very supportive and they also see this as something unique and original that they've never had the opportunity to sell before okay so which action site again is it at wearable r-a-r-i-b-l-e wearable.com and you'll find it actually on the front page um it's being promoted by wearable and it's very easy to find it well as we move forward here and kind of looking at this what kind of video or what kind of impact does this video have for today's ufology you know about um today's ufology in terms of somebody asked me actually uh just today if I if we had that footage now and we're going to release it now did I think it would have the same impact and I don't think it would have anything like the same impact because the internet has many good and bad things about it but one of them is that there is lots of footage on the internet which is faked which is um deep fake to now and all the rest of it so I doubt it would have made any impact at all when we had the footage the internet was in its infancy um we relied a lot more on traditional media who were actually very supportive of the footage and gave it an honest and and um uh free airing in other words they you know they looked at it with an open mind and I don't think people are like that anymore so uh but that said you know there's so much more UFO information coming out seemingly at the moment and sightings and clips and you know the government's getting more involved in you know how UFO information has been handled so maybe it's a good time um for people to become interested in it again and uh if that helps us with our nft that's great and if it doesn't then that's just Just The Way of the World what happens if nobody bids they're nobody bids that's life then we go back to our day jobs and I'm not trying to you know spoof you or anything like that but there is a there is a reality to this you know I mean as much as as you know anybody wants to you know profit or or you know make something off of something that they have that is of potential value there is a potential that it may not go anywhere I mean are you concerned about that have you talked about that no I'm not concerned at all it's a opportunity that with thorning-wise was right if nobody bets or people feel it's too expensive then uh then that's that it's just as I say it's a commercial Enterprise Ray and I have never at any time suggested it's anything other than a commercial Enterprise that's why we when we got the footage we exploited it we've done a movie we've done merchandising we've done all kinds of things I'm very proud of the job we've done I I don't know anyone any explanations for it so if it sells great and if it doesn't as I say you know Ray and I are not full-time ufologists or anything like it we're both in the entertainment business we both have careers uh in different sectors of the entertainment business and we will very happily I mean even if it sold for a fortune tomorrow it wouldn't change what I did the day after so um it doesn't it doesn't bother us in that way if somebody wants to own a piece of History they have an opportunity to do it if they don't that's fine by us too right have you had any private inquiries phone calls on this because your names are on this on this site or on this bid at wearable.com yes we have had some um approaches from various third parties about wanting to buy it um but they have to go to wearable and they have to bet on it like everybody else whether those inquiries are genuine or not we have no way of knowing but I've had at least two direct inquiries on that very subject I don't know if Ray's had any but um yes I'm not surprised because it is a I think it's a momentous thing to own and to have um but again they that may not translate into real bits and if that's the case then again it's fair enough for you I mean this is like holding a lottery ticket I mean less than 12 hours 12 hours to go in this auction and do you feel like you're you're holding a lottery ticket here as I say it's just uh an opportunity um whether people like it or not Ray and I'd be very good at taking opportunities otherwise it wouldn't be half cold and autopsy didn't mean anything to anyone if we hadn't done a good job to get it out into the marketplace and make it what it is today I wouldn't be on this uh this show with you so um no I don't see it as a lottery ticket at all it's just another opportunity and also it keeps the legacy of the alien autopsy alive things like this because we haven't done anything publicity worthy for a while we didn't do it for that reason but we knew as soon as we announced it it would attract attention and as I've said many times and I have done already this evening with you uh both Ray and I are very proud motivated and autopsy in it and the vocab with what we've done and if it brings it back into the public Consciousness there's nothing wrong with that and if that's all we get out of it then that's that's good too well some people will say that any publicity is good publicity is this a potential publicity stunt now it's an absolutely genuine offer if somebody wins the auction they will get exactly what we promise that they will get um I think the definition of a stunt is that there's maybe not enough substance behind what it is you're trying to do but that's not our intention um but again if if the most that comes out of this is that we keep the legacy of alien autopsy alive I don't think there's anything wrong with that all right I think that that is absolutely great and and good luck to you guys as we got about three minutes to go here you know for people who have never seen this video where can they find it to have a look at it because that's probably as close as many people will get to it oh they can see it on YouTube just type in alien autopsy um it's been on there for a long time uh they might not get the movie was called alien autopsy as well so they might get the trailer of the movie um which starred Harry Dean Stanton and Bill Pullman and two British actors who played uh Raya myself in the film um but after the movie the movie's great fun if you haven't seen it it's on Apple it's on Amazon um and when it came out it was very successful in the UK which was obviously the home territory for it so you can see it on YouTube and um familiarize yourself but I was reminded the other day and I watched it again for the first time in many years but there's also a fantastic scene at the beginning of an episode of Seinfeld where Kramer and Newman are sitting on a park bench at the opening of an episode and they're talking about alien autopsy and for me that was almost reward enough to know that it had got into the Zeitgeist and into culture at such a level that it would make a show of that caliber it was in lots of other shows the X-Files um The Simpsons and more recently Project Blue Book on the History Channel which I've thoroughly enjoyed did a two-parter which was based on alien autopsy and they featured Ray and I in the episode which again we're very proud of there's a lot of people out there who who love this video and for you is there any special moment in that video that really stands out to you that the public can look at um I think um my favorite part of the video and also other people have commented is there is a sequence where it looks like they're pulling a a crystal out of the alien's chest I think for a lot of people that's a significant part of the video because it shows something that they would not expect to blend pulling out of anybody's chest let alone an aliens um so that's a particularly good thing um and then I think the um I'm very proud of the way the footage was recreated to match the original footage it's so brilliantly done I'm I don't even know how how they did it it was just so brilliantly done and that I'm very proud of the whole 80 minutes not not just the actual original one minute and 16 seconds well tomorrow's going to be a very big day for you because this auction is going to fire on up and hopefully I mean there's no bidding as of this moment but there's still a number of hours to go and I I really hope success for you I really do and you know it's it's one of those things where you know I'm curious to see how it goes as indeed am I and Ray and everybody who's been involved with it um Rob and Alex have done a fantastic job I would now pay our guys on a great job Dave Altman has helped us a lot uh wearable's done a great job so we've had a fantastic team working on this with us and we're very happy with um with Harrison's come out well good luck Gary schuefield we really appreciate you taking time to break it on down for us here on spaced out radio thank you so much coming up next we have the Sor news wire we have the thought of the day stay tuned spaced out radio continues right after this good job Gary good job thank you I appreciate it I appreciate the time and feel free to feel free to bid I'm sure you're worth many millions of dollars oh I I'm sure I am and I I will get my butler Jeeves to do that right off the bat but uh thanks to my our good friend Dave Altman for uh setting this up I really appreciate your little Davey Altman and uh thank you Gary and all the best to you and good luck in your auction tomorrow thank you take care be safe take care bye-bye bye now all right what a night I gotta tell you I am worn out after tonight this is a huge night for us huge night huge night broken records great radio we saw things out of Lou Elizondo that we've never seen before AKA emotional Lou I think it was great fantastic fantastic I'm hungry Sean Cahill was great as well hey Rock bandanov how are you thank you Steve the alien the Australian astral alien sweet Michelle C thank you see something here I'm curious I don't know if it'll show me yet but wow we gained uh 100 followers on our YouTube tonight alone that's kind of cool it's actually very cool thank you sinister vax honestly anybody want to go to Taco Bell for me I could use some Taco Bell right now asteroid is not in agreeance with tonight's show not in agreeance race fan you weren't even close to Gold tonight just wondering about that thanks right guy where have you been hiding lately it's important for us to know Raspberries go to Taco Bell for us just go it's not gonna hurt anything just go honestly I I've been dieting for like five weeks here okay and I am the last couple of days going through a major junk food withdrawal major junk food withdrawal and I'm not talking like like candy bars or potato chips or anything like that because I don't eat that stuff I'm saying like fast food I am I am dying for fast food right now what I wouldn't do there's very little I wouldn't do right now for a Big Mac oh I'm telling you right now I could pound three Big Macs like anything right now three of them hmm raspberry is the closest Taco Bell to me is two and a half hours away Rafaela I agree the gorgeous and talented raphaela from the Czech Republic no no I'm I'm gonna be good I'm gonna be good after this is done I'm gonna go upstairs I'm gonna need to eat an apple maybe a banana maybe a slice of cheese I don't know I'm gonna be good gotta fight through these tough times and by God this is tough times right now here we go we rounded third we're heading for home tonight on spaced out radio my name is Dave Scott thank you so much for taking the time to join us we really do appreciate earning your listening ears we want to say that and remind you that if you've missed portions of this show or others check out our free archives by going to youtube.com forward slash spaced out radio just do me the favor hit that subscribe button our website is spacedoutradio.com where we have a plethora of features for you including rocking out to bumblefoot and reading up on Captain shirk's Sor news wire follow us on Twitter at spaced out radio and on Instagram at spaced out radio show speaking of the news [Music] Merry Christmas [Music] [Applause] the news is always changing which is why we bring you the Sor news wire at the back end of every show where we get to the Weir the strange the wacky and sometimes the sad and I'm sad about this but before we get to the sad story uh fap in our chat room on YouTube says I'm going for a Taco Bell late night run Dave what do you want one of everything one of everything yes and Kira knowing that I'm dieting the last five weeks says Dave bananas are not good for dieting they are very high in sugars yes but I like them I like bananas I like bananas oh then she's telling me to go on keto well maybe maybe I am losing weight that's the main thing I am losing weight you know I got some sad news here okay some sad news you know you know our good friend on this show Nelson dellis four-time memory champion in the United States brilliant man he's come on the show a couple of times to talk about his chances at climbing Mount Everest where he almost died twice and recently he went back to Mount Everest to try a fourth time to Summit and unfortunately today he announced on his Facebook page that it didn't happen I'm going to read this to you he goes sometimes the story we're after isn't the story We necessarily get or expect we sniped a super narrow weather window thanks to our big boss Phil Crampton obsessing over a multitude of weather forecasts the last few weeks he got it right on the nose but it came at a cost we pushed aggressively up to the South call to beat the window but I was absolutely wrecked with only a few hour first arrest before pushing up to the summit I knew I was going to have to dig deep our Summit day we left at 6 PM hoping to be back down before the winds picked up early the next morning there was no one up there but us and a couple of other teams maybe 25 to 30 people total including Sherpas there was Zero lines this night we got it right either way we headed up and I felt great but part way up the Triangular face a couple of hours in I started to really feel the exhaustion we had already encountered some dead bodies and some people in need of or being rescued and it all just seemed wrong how can people let it get to that point for a rock I knew this was my fourth time and honestly who wants to fail something for a fourth time but I did what made the most sense to me given all the info that was racing through my brain turn around not today so at 83 300 meters I decided to turn around I love this mountain and I so want to be able to stand on top of it one day and be able to say with no excuses I summited Everest but not now not like this maybe it will never happen or maybe it will one day long down the road but I can say for sure that I'm happy with jeez this sounds cliche but true happy with and proud of what I've accomplished on the mountain over the years the story and the memories are all that really matter in the end don't they when we got back down to base camp our amazing cooking crew baked us a cake it said of course congrats on the Summits the rest of our team had summited but there was another message for me that read it's the memories that count I couldn't agree more so in a way I'm very sad for Nelson he's over four in trying to Summit Mount Everest but in the end he did what was right his body was not feeling proper he could not make it up he knew knew he couldn't without risking literally life and death and he made the right decision not only for himself but his beautiful wife their two beautiful sons and I'm really proud of him and spaced out radio you know he is a big fan of us he is a big fan of what we do he's come on this show a couple of times to talk about it and I really do believe that Nelson did his best and hopefully God willing there will be another time for him and get up on top of Mount Everest and live the dream that he so deserves so we're going to keep supporting that the former Pentagon official who went public about reports about UFOs has filed a complaint with the agency's Inspector General claiming a coordinated campaign to discredit him for speaking out including accusing a top official of threatening to tell people he was crazy according to documents reviewed by Politico newswire Lou Elizondo who was on this show earlier a career counterintelligence specialist who was was assigned in 2008 to work for a pentagon program that investigated reports of unmanned aerial phenomena filed a 64-page complaint to the independent Watchdog on May 3rd and has met several times with investigators according to his legal team the claim that the government is trying to discredit him comes weeks before the Director of National Intelligence and the Pentagon are expected to deliver an unclassified report to Congress about UFOs and the government strategy for investigating such encounters the report is expected to include detailed accounting of the agency's personnel and surveillance systems that gather and analyze the data what he is saying is that there are certain individuals in the defense department who in fact were attacking him and lying about him publicly using the color of authority of their offices to disparage him and discredit him and were interfering in his ability to seek and obtain gainful employment out in the world said Daniel Sheehan elizondo's attorney who is a guest on this show last night and also threatening his security clearance she and a public interest lawyer and activist has a long history of taking on the federal government on behalf of high-profile clients including defending the New York Times in the Pentagon papers case as well as one of the Watergate burglars he is also widely viewed as a provocateur who has an abiding interest in UFOs and has spoken publicly about alien visitations he also served as counsel for the disclosure project led by ufologist Dr Stephen Greer that has sought out to force more government transparency on UFOs when asked for comment Elizondo revered all questions to she in unless you listen to this replay on spaced out radio where he gets into it a little bit more I highly suggest you check out our replay of our number one of this show yet nobody seems to be taking this thing seriously she and said of elizondo's concerns when he left Pentagon in 2017 the different units and different groups that are responsible for responding to this particular phenomena they're not briefing each other on this well we'll find out very soon what happens moving forward here oh this is a good story here a Florida man has been arrested for allegedly attacking his daughter with pizza after she said she wanted to be alone on the afternoon of Sunday May 23rd Tyler Warden 41 years old visited the Vero Beach home of his 20 year old daughter Kristen he brought a pizza for them to eat together but she told him that she wasn't feeling well and asked him to leave according to an arrest affidavit the daughter told police that her father became angry and refused to leave he allegedly argued with her in the doorway of her home she said that he then allegedly began to throw slices of pizza at her hitting her in the face isn't that a nice way to treat your daughter the daughter then began to yell at her father called 9-1-1 after he allegedly refused to leave police said when officer Jonathan Lozada from the Vero Beach Police Department responded to the woman's call he discovered tomato sauce us on her face Lozada also found pizza toppings covering the entryway of the woman's house the police officer interviewed the woman's father who claimed that he only threw the pizza after he thought she closed the door in front of him but Lozada didn't believe the claim the father's physical location during the argument and the woman's outward swinging front door LED low sought it to conclude there is no way that Tyler could not have seen that door was open or closed when he threw the pizza yep if the glove don't fit you must acquit right Lozada also noted that strong odor of an alcoholic beverage was on her father's breath his arrest on Mr misdemeanor charges and booked into the Indian River County Jail leave the pizza alone the pizza was innocent innocent I tell you if it seems like SpaceX launches have gotten a little bit well boring lately it's because so many of them go off without a hitch sure the SpaceX Starship prototypes have been having rough go of things but the Falcon 9s is so reliable at this point that launches come and go without much fanfare in fact the SpaceX starlink launch that is scheduled to take place uh it will be the 100th consecutive successful Falcon 9 launch assuming all goes is planned the Milestone is one that has been in the making since June of 2015 which seems like ages ago it was in that month that a SpaceX Falcon 9 was attempting to launch a dragon cargo capsule but failed the Rocket's second stage disintegrated and the capsule was lost that was the last time a falcon 9 failed to perform its Duty and the success streak has shown no signs of slowing down the rocket that will be carrying a fresh batch of starlink satellites into space has one flight under its belt there was a time when using rocket boosters twice was just a pipe dream but by SpaceX standards the Falcon 9 doing the Heavy Hauling is just a newbie the company's record thus far is 10 successful flights with a single rocket which was achieved not long ago spacex's entire business model depends on being able to launch rockets more than once for that to happen the Rockets have to have the ability with reusability in mind sure but they also have to be able to survive every mission in order to have a chance to fly again the Falcon 9 is very clearly a reliable rocket in every sense of the word let's continue on here over 174 million years ago seems like just yesterday doesn't it a squid-like creature was chowing down on an ancient crustacean only to find itself scooped up as a meal by a prehistoric shark three creatures left their Mark in time in an extraordinarily well-preserved fossil in Germany this particular food chain required a bit of detective work immediately recognizable in the fossil itself are the hard Parts yeah of the Bellum night a type of sea creature resembling today's squid hundreds of little hooks two large Hooks and a torpedo-shaped shell called the Rostrum bits of fossilized soft parts of the Bellum night extend from the shell in the claws of the crustacean are inner spread within the hooks the shark however is completely absent there are no bite marks and yet the author of the paper published this April in Swiss Journal of paleontology said that this fossil is in fact the remnant of a meal from a large Marine predator in other words what remains for us today is what the shark hibitus spit out it uh it's not an outlandish leap to suggest this even though there is no proof which uh yeah either way it's kind of cool let's move on we're running out of time firefighters responded to a California road to rescue a parachutist who apparently missed his Landing Zone and became entangled in power lines oh that's scary all you can really do is hang there and hope you don't get electrocuted the Riverside County Fire Department said Crews were summoned about 11 10 a.m on Monday to an intersection in Lake Elsinore where a man's parachute was stuck on power lines leaving him suspended about 30 feet off the ground a utility crew from SoCal Edison was summoned to the scene to shut off the power to the lines and help the man return to Solid ground with a bucket truck the man was taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries firefighters said the scene of the rescue was located nearby a local Skydiving Center but it's not clear whether that was where the man's parachuting Journey begun I have a feeling his parachuting Journey began in an airplane or a helicopter I don't think it was a Condor or an alien ship just saying authorities in Northern California said a mountain lion broke through a window and entered a home after apparently confusing some Taxidermy heads as life prey the San Bruno Police Department said the confused cougar broke through a window of a San Bruno home around 12 20 a.m on Tuesday it is believed that the mountain lion entered the residence because of several large game Taxidermy trophy heads mounted on the interior walls of the residents the home scared the or make that the homeowner not the home scared the animal away and it left through the same window there were no injuries reported while mountain lion sightings are fairly common throughout Northern California this type of incident is out of the ordinary police said the department said the mountain lions are typically not dangerous to the public and will avoid interactions with humans yes until they're hungry it's always when they're hungry well here's sad news from her childhood Eric Carl's picture books were often about insects spiders ladybugs crickets and of course the famous caterpillar all as colorful and friendly as Carl himself yes The Very Hungry Caterpillar how many times have you read that book I know I read it to my kids lots and lots and lots of times one point I actually had it memorized well it's his best known work it came out in 1969 and became one of the best-selling children's books of all time according to a family statement Carl passed away peacefully surrounded by family members on May 23rd he was 91 years old over the course of his career Carl Illustrated more than 70 books for children he didn't get started on that path until he was nearly 40 but he found great inspiration in his own childhood born in Syracuse New York Carl remembered an early life filled with art light and walking through nature holding his father's hands I think it started with my father he took me for long walks and explained things to me he said back in 2007 the Elder Carl pointed out Foxhole spider webs and bird's nests opening his son's eyes to the Beauties and Mysteries in a child's landscape but Carl's immigrant parents decided to return home to Germany his mother was homesick and they arrived just in time for World War II all of us regretted it he remembered during the war there were no colors everything was gray and brown and the cities were all camouflaged with Grays and greens and Browns and greens and gray greens and brown greens there was no color Carl was beaten by teachers and shot at by soldiers and his beloved father disappeared into a Russian prisoner of war camp years later after being drafted to fight for the Nazis the man who wrote The Very Hungry Caterpillar experienced hunger firsthand Carl headed straight back to the United States after graduating from Art School at age 23 and was hired by the New York Times he fell in love with the impressionist who used a lot of color served in the U.S military during the Korean War and upon his return moved into advertising he was 91 years old and finally tonight in the thick of tall grasslands of the Himalaya Foothills lives an endangered pygmy hog a species so small its piglets can fit in your pocket standing about 10 inches the shy animal once roamed the Border regions of India Nepal and Bhutan snuffling about for insects and tubers But A Century of habitat degradation and destruction especially the conversion of grasslands for agriculture use decimated the population of the pygmy hog well it was rediscovered in 1971 after it was thought it was extinct the success now literally says that this pig is starting to be seen again and they're about to release more into the madness with about 60 pigs over the next five years this is all to reproduce and bring this beautiful animal back to its original habitat good for them [Music] thought of the day happens every night at this time where we ask a question on our Facebook ad Twitter pages then read your responses on the air because we love the audience participation around here today's thought of the day is as follows where do you think these UAP are coming from X Quest some are interdimensional pop-ins read Carl Sagan's flatland summer portal Travelers example Skinwalker Ranch some are just from here going Base to Base some are ours Ronnie I believe that most are interdimensional and arriving through portals in fact I believe that many paranormal experiences and creatures are coming here through portals Barry UT's or ultra-terrestrials who probably walk about unnoticed and hide the water and mountains or another reality but here some nuts and bolts ETS Dimension frequency Hoppers could be any of them all right moving on let's go here Evan private firms developing technology the military has no access to realistically the odds of it being aliens are pretty low Gale I believe the uaps are ours rather than from other countries or planets the reason is simple anytime an aerial object enters our airspace and does not respond appropriately to our strict protocol fighter jets are immediately scrambled in the videos we have seen papers and articles we have read regarding the uaps have we seen one single fighter jet scramble to deal with the violation of our airspace I have not therefore I conclude that it's because the aerial objects are ours Chris multiple opinions off-world ETS visiting Earth being witnessed and caught on documented by camera in a way previously not as readily available off-world ETS with installations located on Earth interacting with military and civilian aircraft and personnel Joe all uaps come from a palace of the Inquisition in Mexico City because nobody expects the Inquisition Cable Guy Matt leaves it's space John I believe most are extraterrestrial physical coming from other planets or areas of existence Melinda well let's see while a very slim portion of what crafter cited may be built by humans in advance clandestine high-tech reverse engineering programs the mass majority of what is being witnessed are off-world technology we're just not that good at those programs and aren't that big or that well-funded remember there are at least thousands of sightings worldwide every single day as far as who built those off-world Vehicles we can only extrapolate based on the very limited knowledge of who might be out there we got Mr Ron bumblefoot thaw rocking in the background with little brothers watching bumblefoot is the official music of spaced out radio rocking us in and out of every single show get your horns up for the guitar God himself special thanks to everybody listening in at work at home in your cars wherever you may be thank you to everyone taking part in our chat rooms Tonight on YouTube elgab twitch Revolution Radio spreaker Facebook the space Travelers club and Derek in the starkettes hanging out on Twitter at hashtag spaced outradio [Music] remember this show is copyright by spaced out radio and Sor Media Ventures Limited thank you so much for choosing to share your evening with us because together my friends say it with me We Own the Night Mr bumblefoot we need a favor we need you to take us home [Music] yes the woo train has docked for the night but soon my friends we shall ride again your seats are always available your tickets never expire and if you want to bring a friend yep we've got room for you too good night [Music] well I'm gonna say that was a uh a stellar night of broadcasting here on space down radio if I do say so myself I really believe that I'm not gonna lie I'm for that I'm a big believer in that put those there wow and finally relax that was heavy heavy show I see how we are living how are you oh and Brutus how are you Malou good to see you Moosehead thanks for coming on in gorgeous Teresa how are you thank you damn did Lou get fired up in that first half hour eh and the second hour well our second half hour pardon me boobed Joe's Bane you've got aliens mm-hmm it's good stuff very good stuff tonight oh oh that felt good that felt good yeah tomorrow night on the show Tim McMillan will join us we're going to get into more UFO stuff and then on Friday night we got the Round Table I'm worn out that was hard work tonight thank you raspberries I'll even post that lingo we'll get to some Bigfoot soon uh we hit uh I saw 355 people I did I saw 355. give me one sec here guys good morning foreign sorry about that thanks to effingersen foreign I'll check the stats tomorrow on YouTube but we definitely hit a record tonight definitely in a record I'm not gonna lie that was kind of cool I was actually kind of nervous not gonna lie dude [Music] foreign boy Lou was high on the audio wow should have probably turned him down a little bit let's bring this down just a little bit then facts normalize let's go 85 percent yeah it's better all right give me two seconds here guys foreign there we go sorry about that foreign I do not gonna lie Finn's the type of guy that you would run into at the laundromat because he's inside the dryer using the tumbler to see how long he can go great big fat creep oh my Malu good night Jack Clark good night Aussie Ange Raj Lambda how you doing Justin Good Earth good to see you holy Derek wow thank you Derek wow appreciate that Derek way too kind wow foreign damn you that's just that's terrible that's just terrible oh my gosh I should be offended by that I should totally be offended by that oh my God oh thank you Derek I appreciate that buddy uh wow thank you foreign that one's stung that one's done Benny's the only guy I knew who ever got kicked out of the kids school section for eating all the paste yeah they got to keep the paste and Crayons under lock and key when Vinnie's around that was not the real Demi Lovato foreign how do we really know if it was or was not we really don't know hey three and a one one m.3 uh yes we are live so the show's over what I'm doing right now is I'm just editing the show and put piecing it all together for our radio stations and I just let you guys hang on out foreign thanks Kev appreciate that Mooney I will have Jason Momoa back on for your bombshell I never really noticed the resemblance until you mentioned that foreign Mark how you doing buddy sweet Joey Hayes good morning to you foreign who said that YOLO Tango oh yes I saw that bomber he came in about the squatching thing dropped an elbow on him good we don't need that stuff foreign foreign I don't get it thirst and howl the Third oh uh I I will Logan I'm sorry uh will be done in about 19 minutes I apologize we'll be done in about 19 minutes but uh thank you for asking yes I will uh make sure if you want to go listen to the podcast side Logan uh on our YouTube channel if you listen to the podcast side that should be loaded up by now so you can get at least the audio version in uh or if you have Apple iTunes or Google Play that should all be done it's just a YouTube side that isn't uh fully up and running yet that'll be about 19 minutes away thank you for tuning in Logan Clements appreciate you hopefully we did enough to uh get you to hit that subscribe button that's actually kind of cool can you end the stream so I can listen to the replay that that's actually kind of cool I can't believe there's still 194 people that was insane oh what I wouldn't do for a sandwich right now I may go make a sandwich after this oh Brutus that is amazing you know you could have just put the sandwich on the counter right unless you're outside just saying it's always a way thanks Sheila Tango appreciate that you should you should totally um feel sorry for my fridge because I'm going to destroy it uh Melinda you gotta listen to the replay he was phenomenal he went off he went off a couple of times like just pure emotion it was beautiful far flung thank you make sure you hit that subscribe button if you haven't already far flung we would appreciate it hmm foreign oh I wouldn't mind a peanut butter and jelly sandwich right now seriously I have no idea why I'm hungry I'm literally grazing all day on health food I had a real good meal tonight really good meal tonight Sean was amazing too Melinda um thank you Andrew appreciate that holy fabster thank you oh wow those are amazing oh nice Melinda did he get anything good foreign do I have any Gibson SGS no I do not zero null um this is a pardon me this one here is a uh Washburn this one here is a Jay turser I don't have a Gibson's yet I'm saving that when I actually learn how to play guitar foreign guitar let me show you here foreign grab a picture of it here put this over here and I'll share this this is my dream Les Paul right here that blue one right here in the corner that is my Dream Les Paul I love that guitar yeah I love that guitar oh let's go like this let me quickly do this here before I forget no come on show you my other one that I want where is it here I just gotta find a picture of it there it is oh that's awfully small there it is not really a good picture of it see if we can get a better picture of it there it is this is the other one that I'm waiting for and I may have access to this one that one right there the one that bumblefoot's holding right there on stage the red one or in this photo right here I have a spot on my wall waiting for that guitar see if there's another image of it somewhere I don't know foreign I don't know uh the red one that bumblefoot uses is a Vijay so let's bring that up here see if we can find it here it was a pretty bad website [Music] um okay foreign there we go I know Melinda is here isn't it exciting um um hmm one second Melinda my brain is kind of fried after tonight where is it here those are kind of cool I'm having troubles thinking yeah let's go here well we do know that he may or may not have leaning towards the May side of uh briefed uh the vice president on UFOs we found that out what am I doing I'm gonna go here oh wow thanks Brutus appreciate that Brutus thank you well we just need a million more one million more I think we could do it yes Harris he expects another real power video to come out foreign very soon could be applesauce thank you could be almost done I'm tired I'm hungry I'm tired I get to get up with my little guy tomorrow for school he was very independent today for the first time ever in his school year he decided to walk home from school rather than take the bus and he walked home with his buddies that was a first today it's a big step in Independence foreign we are done for the night big thank you to everyone um who tune on in tonight thank you to all our new subscribers everybody who donated to the Super Chat um everybody who uh tuned us in our regulars I love you and your support here every night just makes it that much more fun thank you to everyone who uh is a veteran out there who tuned in really appreciate you everyone thank you tomorrow night on the show Lieutenant Tim McMillan will be with us and we're going to continue to continue the UFO talk and then Friday night we got the round table so we'll talk to you all then much love to each and every one of you see you tomorrow night