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Confessions of a UFO Hunter: Ross Coulthart interviews Lue Elizondo
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Former Pentagon insider, veteran and investigator Luis "Lue" Elizondo is quite possibly the most important voice in the modern UFO movement, and he sat down with NewsNation's Ross Coulthart to share the story of what he claims the American government really knows about UFOs.

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Transcript:

and today he's quite possibly
the most important voice
in the modern UFO movement.
I'm doing nothing more than
finishing the job I was given.
Lou Elizondo, risking
his career, his family,
and possibly his life
to tell the story
of what the American government
really knows about alien
craft and.
His responsive and reactive.
Alien life.
There's zero information
to suggest what they are doing
is for benenevolent reasons, an.
The people in the Pentagon
are trying to hide
the truth from you.
There are forces,
powerful forces,
that don't want this story told.
And they'll go to great lengths
to keep it a secret.
If aliens exist,
where do they come from?
You know,
people always say, well,
these things are clearly
from outer space.
I said, let's hold off on that.
What have they done to people?
Some of these people
were very seriously injured.
And what do they want?
Hopefully they're not like us.
Tonight, you'll hear the jaw
dropping revelations.
I'm not saying
it doesn't sound crazy.
What I'm saying is it's real.
Lou Elizondo
Confessions of a UFO Hunter.
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena
Making.
More Information p public
when it comes to Unidentified
Anomalous phenomenon.
This object and mysterious ring
that appeared over the skies
of Oklahoma earlier this month.
Unless you've been asleep
for the past seven years,
you've probably noticed
our species is living through
a UFO renaissance
headlines, television
specials, incident reports,
and even congressional hearings
into what are now called UAP.
Unidentified
anomalous phenomena.
We have things flying over
military installations
and no one knows what.
There are many people
responsible
for this resurgence of interest.
But perhaps no one has played
a bigger role
than a muscle bound man
with tattoos,
a soul patch,
and one hell of a story to tell.
He's Lou Elizondo, former
Pentagon UFO investigator.
And he's telling that story
here on News Nation
and in a new book.
It's tantalizing title,
imminent.
Inside the Pentagon's
Hunt for UFOs.
Your book title is imminent.
Something is about to happen.
What's about to happen?
Well, if we're lucky.
Disclore
The realization that the U.S.
government is aware
that the topic of UAP
is not only valid,
but they're real.
The book lays out in vivid
detail allegations
that the United States
military has been running a UAP
retrieval and reverse
engineering program for years
and has even recovered
alien bodies, aliens,
non-human intelligence
sources are real
and they have
been engaging with humanity.
ROSS We're not alone.
We are
not alone in this universe.
And it is a simple fact.
And the U.S.
government has been aware
of that fact now for decades.
The American public,
the entire planet is being lied
to by the American government
about what's really going on.
I think
if the American public knew
just how deep this lie went,
then we would have
a very significant
constitutional crisis
on our hands.
Why should you believe
any of this?
And who is this
Elizondo character anyway?
Well,
it depends on whom you ask.
Very hard working,
very diligent, intelligent
and patriotic.
He is just a normal guy
who is trying to do something
extraordinary.
What defines Lou Elizondo?
Loyalty,
Transparency.
Honesty.
Officially,
the Pentagon disputes
what Elizondo says
he's done and seen,
but everyone agrees he's an Army
veteran
who has served in hotspots
around the world,
then oversaw counter-espionage
and counter-terrorism
investigations
for the Department of Defense.
In short,
he's an American badass.
You've been in combat
situations, haven't you?
You've been in life
threatening situations.
I've been in some very
unfortunate situations.
Yeah, I've got a lot of regrets.
And I want to make sure that
whatever I've done in my life,
serving the people in that
building, I don't want to forget
even the bad things.
To make sense of the man
and his claims.
You need to go back to
when it all started.
That was 2009, when Elizondo
was working as an intelligence
operations specialist
for the Department of Defense.
He'd risen to the coveted
GS 15 pay scale,
the highest level
federal employees can attain.
Remember, I was
I was a senior
GS 15 at the time,
which is a pretty,
pretty senior.
What's more, he'd set up
a comfortable life in Kent
Island, Maryland, with his wife,
Jen, and their two daughters.
We had a really nice
place to live.
This was a great place
to raise our kids.
And it was just
a really laid back area
to grow up to raise a family
and to live here.
But Elizondo says it all changed
after he met this man,
a renowned missile systems
expert named Jim Kensky.
He was running a program
called Awesome.
He was running a program
called ASVAB.
Correct, which I have to read
the acronym.
It's the Advanced
Aerospace Weapons System
Application Program.
But you learned soon that
what all Sepp was investigating
was not just advanced weaponry.
Yeah, I remember distinctly
Jim pulling me into his office.
He said,
I mean, just bluntly he said,
What do you think about UFOs?
And so I responded truthfully.
I said, I don't.
I wasn't interested,
particularly
as a kid, into science fiction.
I wasn't a big Star Trek
fan or star Wars fan.
So I consider myself
kind of a gumshoe investigator.
Old school. Just just the facts
ma'am kind of guy.
And he said, that's fair.
But he said, make sure that
you don't let your analytic bias
get the best of you and
you have to remain open minded.
He basically told you. UFOs.
Unidentified
Anomalous phenomena.
Uaps are real.
Yeah. So?
So Jim told me point blank
that they were studying
and collecting information
on UFOs.
Elizondo claims
he was invited to join
a program under
the also umbrella called Atop
the Advanced Aerospace
Threat Identification Program.
And soon that invitation
became an initiation.
I was a bit of like Alice
in Wonderland
going down the rabbit hole,
and it kept getting deeper
and deeper.
Elizondo says his first real
epiphany came during a meeting
with a Brazilian Air Force
general who'd come to brief them
on a series of incidents
in a city called Calories.
Tell me what was happening.
These people, the townspeople,
people were being plagued
by UAP, UFOs.
In some cases,
they were being pursued.
And reports
of these laser beam type,
if you will, emissions
were coming down
and harming people to the point
where the Brazilian government
actually deployed doctors
in the military to investigate.
And then when they arrived,
they substantiated,
they encountered
these UFOs, these UAP as well.
But I know the report
of calories officially,
according
to the Brazilian government,
calories
didn't find any evidence at all.
Yeah, well,
that was not the case.
And it was very clear that
that it was
a very legitimate investigation.
And what they found was that
these things were coming in
and out of t area
and harming people.
As Lou went further down
the rabbit hole.
He says he learned that many of
the classic UFO cases were,
in fact, much more than legends,
including the famous incident
in Roswell,
New Mexico, Roswell, 1947.
What happened
there was a UAP that crashed.
In fact, there were two UAP
that crashed and one flew away
while the other one did not.
And it was recovered
by the U.S. government.
You must appreciate people
watching this, hearing you
talking about aliens recovered
craft, recovered bodies.
It sounds crazy.
Well, as I've said before,
I'm not saying
it doesn't sound crarazy.
What I'm saying is it's real.
Coming
up, are alien abductions real?
So people have been taken away
from their homes
and had things planted in them.
Is there a connection between
aliens and psychic powers?
This is real morphology
occurring in the human brain.
And what happened
when Lou started
bringing his work home with him?
I had no idea what the hell
I was getting myself into.
Stay with us.
Former Pentagon
UFO investigator Lou
Elizondo writes in his new book,
Imminent, that non-human
intelligence has been engaging
with humans for decades.
So what do they want?
There are many commentators
who say
they friendly to the
no threat at all to humanity.
Can we assume that?
Well,
I think in order to understand
if something is a threat
from a national security
perspective, it's
a very simple calculus.
Capabilities versus intent.
We see some of the capabilities.
And by the way,
we can't replicate them.
We have no idea the intent.
So to to presume or to assume
that these things are friendly
or they're hostile.
There's not enough data.
Elizondo says the Pentagon's UFO
investigators
were keenly interested in
the impact UAP
were having on individuals,
especially military personnel.
There's enough report
to substantiate that.
Not all these interactions are
necessarily benign or peaceful.
Some people leave terrified,
some people leave injured.
There are U.S. service people.
There is people that
are on full 100% disability
right now from the U.S.
government because of an
interaction with UAP.
And it's in writing,
by the way, from the U.S.
government because of their
involvement in an incident.
Indeed, the Veterans
Administration has granted
full medical disability
benefits to this man.
Airman John Burrows for injuries
to his heart and eyes.
He claims he suffered
during the famous 1980
UAP incident in Rendlesham
Forest, England.
And Elizondo says that's
just the tip of the iceberg.
Did you, in any of your UAP
investigations come across
evidence of alleged abductions
of humans by non-human beings?
We came across information
that suggested
that people were having things
put inside their body
that they did
not give approval to.
So people have been taken away
from their homes
in the middle of the night
and had things planted in them.
Something that was put inside
their body, something invasive,
something that was not
put there by their permission
to do something.
You've seen one of those
implants, haven't you?
I have been privy
to some very interesting things.
This photo, he says, shows
one of those interesting things.
It's allegedly
a biological sample removed
from a US service member
and submitted for analysis.
This is possibly an alien
implant.
Well, if you look, there's
actually a piece of the chip
sticking out and what appears
to be these fibers
that were moving on their own.
And then it looks like this
this chip or whatever this is,
this foreign object
is encapsulated by some sort of
biological material.
Could that not be something
biological, microbiological
or parasitic?
Well, it's
certainly the outside looks like
it's some sort of masking
device in essence.
You have a foreign object,
which it was.
It's a metallic object in there.
And it seems to be encapsulated
by some sort of
biological material.
How do you know
it's not just a bit of metal
that somebody
knocked into on a building site?
Well, in this particular case,
this was moving on its own.
It was actually had its own
metabolic activity
and it terrified
one of the doctors
who was looking at
this under a microscope.
They said they didn't want to.
They didn't
want to see this again.
But are you apes
abducting people at random
or are they drawn to certain
individuals?
Elizondo says
research has revealed
an intriguing pattern
among UAP experiences
in a fascinatingng
part of the brain.
This is a part of the brain
known as the quality.
Put them in and it is a very
specific part of the brain.
It's responsible
for all sorts of stuff.
And some have even speculated
precognition may.
It's certainly
intuition. Intuition for sure.
Elizondo says the core data
reputation
is larger in people
with alleged psychic powers,
what the government has called
remote viewing.
What about people
who've had UAP experiences?
Very interesting.
The same thing.
And by the way,
that's not me telling you
that These are medical doctors
and scientists.
Stanford immunologist Dr.
Gary Nolan
has been researching this topic.
And while his conclusions
are not definitive,
there are two working theories.
One, that people
with naturally large caudate
Putman might attract shapes
like an antenna.
Another that UAP encounters
with normal people
cause that same
part of the brain to get bigger.
And there is a lot of
information to substantiate that
this is this is
this is real morphology
occurring in the human brain.
Elizondo argues
that people with enhanced
caudate
Putman might have a talent both
for remote viewing
and communicating with UAP.
And that's important because
it's an established fact.
The Pentagon has had an interest
in remote viewing
for military purposes.
In the vernacular, used to call
it psychic espionage.
There was a program in the U.S.
government called Stargate.
They were taking young soldiers
and civilians,
and they were training them
to conduct espionage
behind enemy lines.
And the term was called
remote viewing.
A lot of people
that were in the remote viewing
program had MRI's done
of their brains and and a vast
majority have have that specific
morphology.
Do I think it's extraordinary?
No. It may
be a vestigial capabily
that humans had for a long time.
Does it work? Oh,
it absolutely works.
It actually works.
Remote
viewing has been discredited.
The CIA determines
that it doesn't work.
Okay, sure.
You're saying it does work?
It absolutely works.
Lou says he knows it works
because he was trained
in remote viewing himself.
I don't like to really publicly
talk about it.
My involvement
was only tangential.
There's a story you tell of
a terrorist suspect
and there was a remote viewing
operation done
that you were part of.
Yes, we did an experiment.
Probably shouldn't have,
but we did.
And long story short, it
appeared to be very effective.
That alleged capability
for remote viewing
and its potential connection
to non-human intelligence
may sound like a gift.
But Lou says it was also
at least partially a curse.
He says that's
because after years of studying
UAP encounters, he began
experiencing what's known in
UAP circles
as the hitchhiker Effect.
UAP eyes
were appearing at t his home
perhaps
because he was attracting them.
What started happening?
Oh, wow.
What would I start?
Well, we would have these weird
glowing
balls of light in the house.
There were.
They were green,
They were small.
They were diffuse.
Kind of like
like a little neon ball.
And it really caused
some disruption for.
For my kids and my wife.
What were you seeing?
I would routinely see orbs.
What do you mean by orbs?
Small little spherical,
green, whitish
green type of color
and just
walking down the hall and.
And I would just stop
and it would just continue to go
right through the wall.
So we're talking
about the hitchhiker effect.
Something had followed
Liu home from work.
Or by his very nature. Yes.
How did he explain things?
Was he able to
talk about what was going on?
Not well.
I could imagine.
You were pretty angry.
I was very upset.
The house had been turned upside
down.
Yes. It sounds like the stuff
of madness.
Tall tales, delusions.
And anyway, where was the proof
for any of this?
But before Elizondo was through,
the world would sit on video
like him and say,
I can't stay with us.
This is the video
that would shock the world
and change it.
24 November, the USS Nimitz
carrier Strike Group.
We're doing what they call
workups
off the coast of San Diego.
And as they are doing this,
there are two different
radar arrays that are picking up
these objects
over the course of several days,
dropping from 80,000 feet.
And within about a second
or less,
all of a sudden
being 50 feet over the water
and hovering
and then popping back up again.
So they vector the two
F-18 aircraft and they go to
look at this thing.
And long story short,
after visually seeing this tic
tac looking object,
roughly about the same length
of F-18 fuselage
performing in ways
that we still can't replplicate,
bouncing around up and down.
So this is an intelligent
technology.
This is absolutely responsive
and react.
And it's not human.
It's not ours.
Though the Nimitz tic
tac incident had occurred back
in 2004.
Elizondo
didn't see the video until 2009,
and then in 2015
it happened again
at the naval aviators
attached to the USS Roosevelt
recorded these two other videos
during exercises
off the coast of Florida.
That also caught the attention
of intelligence consultant
and former Deputy
Assistant Secretary of Defense
Chris Mellon.
The Navy was experiencing
a number of incursions
into restricted airspace,
and I met with the Pentagon,
began
to hear about these incursions.
And the more I learned,
the more I realized
that we had a potential disaster
on our hands.
The videos remained undisclosed
to the public for years,
and it's easy to see why
these weren't just strange
objects in the sky.
They conformed to
what Aatip would establish
as the five observables by car.
So the five observables
include instantaneous
acceleration, hypersonic
velocity, low
observability, trains, medium
travel and antigravity.
In essence,
the ability to defy Earth's
natural gravitational force
without the associated
technology or means to do it.
The government has said that
for the record,
this is not our technology.
You know,
people always say, well,
you know, these things are from
clearly from outer space.
And I said, well, you know,
let's let's hold off on that.
I often tell people, look,
they can be from outer
space, inner space, or frankly,
the space in between.
There's a whole reality
around us.
There's life
in the bottom of the ocean
that that that live and thrive.
And they survive off
chemo synthesis, not theun.
And then we have life that's,
you know,
deep down in the Arctic, ice
that's thriving
and even on the ice
space station.
What do you find, though,
the most plausible explanation
for the intelligence
that we're witnessing?
I mean, these things can be
just as natural as we are.
They could be from the oceans.
We don't know.
Elizondo says it also identified
another pattern.
In several instances,
UAP have allegedly appeared
near American nuclear facilities
or weapons systems.
Both the Nimitz and the
Roosevelt are nuclear powered.
We do know
that there is a very
significant interest
that UAP have towards
our nuclear technology.
A daunting thought, to be sure.
But Elizondo says Aatip
also developed a hypothesis
that the UAP
might have an Achilles heel,
a vulnerability that the
American military can exploit.
Electromagnetic pulses
of some kind could bring down
these craft.
Yeah.
The general consensus was that
these vehicles, the propulsion
units, are susceptible
to electromagnetic pulse,
meaning
they are using a technology
that the electromagnetism,
if they were to encounter
a certain
frequency of electromagnetism,
would interfere
with their ability
to fly maneuver.
Building on that hypothesis,
Elizondo says
his team devised
an audacious secret plan
to disable and capture
one of those Tic Tacs.
We had proposed a honey trap to
to try to collect data
and information on these UAP.
So this was an operation
known as interloper?
That is correct.
So you have a nuclear
powered carrier
with other nuclear
powered vessels,
potentially nuclear
powered submarines,
which also may have
potentially nuclear weapons.
So the idea is to create a
a nuclear footprint
that is so irresistible
to these things.
We would create a trap and
then that trap would be sprung.
But Operation Interloper never
made it past the planning phase.
Interloper was stymied,
wasn't it?
It was scrapped.
It was scrapped.
It was a pretty good idea.
And it was approved by a lot of
people, a lot of agencies.
And yet, when it finally got to
the top, it was stopped.
It was blocked.
It's almost like somebody
perhaps already knew the answer.
Or didn't want us
having the answer.
Elizondo says the shelving
of Operation Interloper
was just one of several puzzling
and frustrating setbacks
to its mission,
and eventually he came
to believe it was more than just
bureaucratic inefficiency.
Someone was trying to block
his team from making progress.
I took an oath
to the American people
to defend this country from all
enemies, foreign and domestic.
And turns out that the enemy
was elements in our own
government of the bureaucracy.
That realization would lead
to the biggest and riskiest
decision of Elizondo.
His life. Accomplish my mission.
I knew I had to leave.
Stay with us.
If it's true that the Pentagon's
so-called legacy Program
has been secretly retrieving
and studying, Donoghue
man craft and even bodies, well,
where are they?
Area 51 Wright-Patterson
Air Force Base in Ohio.
Or somewhere else.
No one has come forward
with those specifics.
Not even famed
military intelligence
officer turned UFO whistleblower
David GrGrush, who went public
on News Nation last year.
Those details were not approved
for me to talk about.
But now Lou Elizondo is going
there.
There comes a point in your book
where you name names.
You name Lockheed Martin,
TRW, Northrop Grumman,
Boeing, Raytheon,
be a Systems
and the Aerospace Corporation.
And as being some of the private
corporations
that are involved
in working on retrieved
alien technology.
True.
It is true
that it is in my book. Yup.
You also reveal
how some non-human alien
bio samples are now being kept
at Fort Detrick
in Maryland, where the were. Or.
Were or with the FDA,
and that they have been moved
around so many times.
The origins have likely been
forgotten.
Elizondo claims
that some of the answers
and perhaps the biological
samples can be found here
at the Department
of Health and Human Services,
which oversees the FDA
and the NIH.
Certainly we know that
a lot of these samples
were farmed out to experts
like the National Institute
of Health and IHS
and the US Food and Drug
Administration, which absolutely
fall under the authorities
of this building.
Logically,
it makes sense that there
are people in that building
right now
that may know the location
of where
these biological samples are.
The defense companies
Elizondo names
the Pentagon and the Department
of Health and Human Services
all categorically deny
Elizondo claims.
He says those denials are
only possible because he could
never get the evidence
to prove their involvement once
and for all.
Your investigations wanted
to investigate those samples
and you were denied access.
We were.
Before you became
increasingly aware, didn't you,
that there were people
in the Pentagon,
in the intelligence community,
in private aerospace,
who didn't
want you investigating UAP?
Absolutely.
We began to run into
some fierce resistance.
And the more we continued
to investigate it, increased
level of that resistance became.
There were elements.
The only way I can
describe them
as as religious fundamentalists.
It's a group
that is euphemistically dubbed
as the Collins elite, isn't it?
It is.
The Collins elite has long been
rumored to be
a cabal of religious fanatics
within the Pentagon.
Many consider them a myth.
Elizondo thinks otherwise.
That group is alive
and well. It exists.
I encountered elements
of that group firsthand.
And the gatekeepers
inside the Pentagon
who don't want the UAP story
investigated.
That is correct, Ross.
There are religious
fundamentalists
inside the Pentagon
and inside the U.S.
government and specifically
the intelligence community
that have a very,
how shall I say,
strict ierpretation
of their philosophical belief
system.
Elizondo recounts
one specific encounter
with a high ranking member
of this so-called Collins elite.
He stopped me in the halls
of the Pentagon and he said,
Have you read your Bible lately?
And I was kind of surprised
by the question, like,
I mean,
I know what the Bible says.
What may I ask specifically?
What do you mean?
This is a you know, what we're
dealing with are are demons.
These are demonic beings.
And we shouldn't
be looking at them.
But aside
from potential religious
motivations for the secrecy,
Elizondo suggests
they could also be
geopolitical considerations
at play.
Do the Russians and the Chinese
have recovered craft?
I can't speak on behalf of what
the Russians or Chinese
or any adversaries may have
or may not have.
Well,
could
that be driving our concern
that we don't want
to show our hand?
There's always a concern
when a foreign adversaries
looking at something
there is this cat and mouse.
We don't want the adversaries
to know what we have.
And we also don't
want the adversary to know
what we don't know. Right.
So there's always a reason
not to broadcast
what you know
and don't know to your enemy.
Whatever the motivations
for the alleged cover up.
Elizondo says it went way
beyond mere
bureaucratic foot dragging.
People were threatened,
weren't they?
Oh, absolutely.
Some of our folks were told,
if you're not careful,
we're going to exactly
tell you what we did
with the Rosenbergs.
You're done.
So people are being threatened
with death if they talk about.
Sure.
Because
and by the way, will say, oh,
the government
would never do that.
Try getting on area 51 there
signs on the fence that say
lethal force is authorized.
You absolutely can use
lethal force to protect
national security investments
in eququities at we do it.
Elizondo describes
the mounting obstructions
but denied requests,
the scrapped plans, the threats
and above all, the steadfast
refusal to disclose any of this
either to the public, the
Congress, or even the president.
By early 2017,
it had all become too much.
So there came a time
during your work with a
where you just decided, I'm
getting nowhere,
I'm getting blocked, I'm
getting stymied.
What did you decide to do?
I went public.
I resigned.
How hard was it
for you to write this letter?
Oh, yeah.
This is my my resignation memo
to the Secretary of Defense.
Probably the hardest memo
I ever had to write.
In the letter addressed to the
Defense secretary, James Mattis.
Elizondo said he was quitting
because despite
overwhelming evidence, certain
individuals in the department
remain staunchly
opposeh
on the culture of the topic
of anomalous aerospace threats.
Because you wrote that memo
and circumvented
your immediate boss's,
what did they do?
Well, they made my life hell.
Hard times were ahead.
But Elizondo was about
to make some hell of his own
as he and those explosive videos
were about to go public.
I'm doing this because I believe
it's the right thing to do.
Stay with us.
On December
the 16th, 2017, the world
woke up to a bombshell.
Lou Elizondo
working with Chris Mellon,
had gone public with the now
famous Nimitz tic tac video.
I contacted three different news
organizations and eventually
the New York Times
editors were persuaded
they had enough
to do a front page story.
The New York Times
published an explosive article
revealing the Pentagon's
secretive UFO program reports
the US government
is still collecting information
about encounters between unknown
aircraft and our military.
Elizondo spent ten years
as head of a secret study of.
Unidentified aerial. Objects.
When the story broke,
you suddenly discovered operator
who'd worked in the world
of intelligence.
Suddenly became
an international public figure.
What was it like?
It was terrifying.
I had spent my entire life
living in the shadows
as an intelligence officer.
Anonymity is your friend.
Coming out was was for me,
one of the most difficult
experiences.
Suddenly, Lou Elizondo,
whose face became synonymous
with the UFO question
and now with his days
at the Pentagon behind him, Lou
devoted himself to the cause.
He took a job with to the stars
Academy, a UFO research
and advocacy group
founded by rock star Tom DeLong.
Together,
they appeared on History
Channel's Unidentified Inside
America's UFO Investigation,
which garnered him
even more fame.
Someone even started
selling T-shirts with his face.
But that attention
came at a price.
There were a lot of positives,
but things also were about
to get bad, weren't they?
I did not think
that our lives would be this
turned
inside out for this many years.
It's exhausting.
It's exhausting.
You suffered retribution
and in fact, the Office
of Special Investigations
and the Air Force began
a criminal investigation
against you, didn't they?
They did.
What happened with. That?
The initial allegation
was that I
was responsible for unauthorized
disclosure, and then I.
I stole classified videos
out of the Pentagon,
a whole bunch of stuff. And.
Long story short, the Air Force
always I came back and said,
nope, actually,
we seized computers.
No wrongdoing,
didn't take anything home,
and never had a conversation
about anything classified.
Everything's unclassified.
Publicly,
the Pentagon has also denied
Lou's claim
that he was the head of Aatip.
Both in prior public statements
and directly to News Nation
for this report, effectively
calling him a liar and a fraud.
Take ISIS. I'll take Al Qaida.
You know, whatever he keep those
those don't scare me.
Those don't bother me.
What bothers me is
when people question by loyalty
my intentions of
what I'm trying to do, that
that cuts deep.
What do you think yourself of
the fact that the Pentagon,
as you describe
it, has been actively
trying to discredit Lou?
I think it's shameful.
This is how you're repaid.
Doesn't it makes no sense to me.
It makes no sense.
We need to have an intelligence
community that is willing
to speak truth to power.
Here comes a guy who does that
and clearly is correct.
Does he get an award
for identifying a huge,
major vulnerability in America's
air defense like he should.
No. He gets harassed
by these bureaucrats
because he's doing stuff
that is inconvenient.
On top
of the reputational attacks,
Lou and his family were uprooted
from their home as lose
new job to the Stars Academy
called him to California.
Then the job fell through.
You'd essentially gone from
fairly steady jobs, well-paid
in Maryland,
and you'd
basically taken a complete
financial bath.
I had to get a job at Target,
and then after that,
I got a job at Home Depot.
The family went from their house
in Maryland
to this mobile home.
Does it frustrate you
sometimes that people perhaps
don't understand the sacrifice
that you and Lou and your family
have had to endure?
Yes, especially because everyone
thinks we have all this money.
Oh, they're just grifting.
Come live for a day in my life.
I guarantee
you will run back two years.
Why is this worth it, Lou?
I mean, you were just 15
in the senior executive service
of the Defense Department.
You ended up having to dig
your own pit toilet.
You couldn't
continue to pay your rent.
Why is it worth it?
I have two daughters
and I have a wife,
and we have been through hell.
But there's a lot of people
who had a lot worse than me.
I feel terrible
because the stress
I have put my family through
and what they've had to endure.
Some relief finally came in
April 2021, when Senator
Harry Reid wrote a letter
confirming Lew's role in a tip.
It's in black and white.
Personal vindication aside,
Elizondo says he's most
proud of the momentous shift
that's taken place
in the national conversation
on the UAP question,
both among the general public
and on Capitol Hill.
In 2022, lawmakers
passed legislation
that called on the DOD
to create a UAP office
which would report to Congress.
That office is now known
as the all domain
anomaly Resolution,
office or arrow.
You have come a long way
since 2017.
What's been achieved?
I'm most proud of the fact it's
being openly discussed
in the halls of the Pentagon.
That means that the stigma
and the taboo
is finally, finally evaporating
and we can begin to see the
topic more clearly.
Unidentified objects
in any domain pose
potential risks
to safety and security,
particularly from military
personnel and capabilities.
With the testimony
of the first Arrow director Sean
Kirkpatrick, in 2023,
it seemed like
the UAP renaissance
had officially commenced.
But would it really be
an age of enlightenment?
What he was saying is not
consistent with the truth.
And when someone like that
blatantly tells you something
that is not true, you've got a
serious credibility problem.
Stay with us.
Do you solemnly swear
or affirm
that the testimony
you are about to give
is the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth,
so help you. God?
On the 26th of July 20, 20,
Navy pilot Ryan Graves,
Navy Commander David Fravor
and former Air Force
Intelligence officer David Grush
testified at a Congressional
hearing heard around the world.
I was informed
in the course of my.
Official duties
of a multidecade UAP.
Crash retrieval
and reverse engineering program.
How did it feel for you
that moment?
It was a very profound
and proud moment for me.
So you had three
military personnel testifying
on the reality of UAP.
Now, that's that's historic.
Whistleblower David Grush
came on News Nation and made an
earth shattering claim.
It felt for a moment
like the dam was breaking,
that full disclosure
was about to happen.
The American people deserve
to know the truth on this.
But it didn't work out
like that.
First Arrow denied David Rush's
claims.
Then, like Lou, Rush
became the subject of a vicious
discrediting campaign, including
his own medical history.
And they try to discredit him
just like they tried to do me,
just like they try to
anybody else who comes out
and steps out of out of rank.
What's more,
arrow has publicly declared
that it has found no evidence
to support any claims
of a government UAP
retrieval program.
As for the UAP captured
on those famous videos,
yes, they remain unidentified.
But while the Pentagon says
Arrow will follow the data
wherever it leads,
it says it has not found
any credible evidence
of extraterrestrial activity or.
So do you think that people like
Shaun
Kirkpatrick are operating
according to a dictated agenda,
thathey're being told
to try and suppress interest
in the UAP?
What I can tell you
is that what he was saying
is not with the truth.
And when someone like that
blatantly tells you something
that is not true,
you've got a serious credibility
problem.
Dr. Kirkpatrick told News
Nation.
At no time did I provide
false information to Congress.
In fact, my team provided
actual evidence,
something that all of the other
claimants have failed to do.
Why haven't you appeared before
Congress yet?
There must have been numerous
opportunities.
Well, sure, but there's only
been one public hearing.
So far.
There's going to be more.
And it's not up to me.
But I can tell you,
I've been asked
and my response was, absolutely,
I will testify.
Lose a patriot, isn't he? Yes.
What's driving him?
He feels that humanity is owed
this information.
People should know
if we are not alone.
No government has the right
to keep that hidden.
A growing public movement
seems to agree
as interest in the UAP question
continues to intensify. Both
and at
UAP conferences
around the country.
Plus, there's been a veritable
avalanche of former
military officers coming forward
with similar claims,
including Rear Admiral Tim
Gallaudet and Colonel Cal Neil.
Non-human intelligence exists.
Non-human intelligence has been
interacting with humanity.
This interaction is not new.
And military grade.
UAP videos are now popping up
regularly
like this one over
Puerto Rico, this one along
the Arizona border
and this one over
an undisclosed conflict zone
in the Middle East.
This is more than intriguing,
more than provocative.
It's potentially revolutionary
and transformational.
What can people do?
What should any citizen do?
How can they help you
get involved?
Talk to your members
of Congress.
Ask questions
whether it's around the dinner
table or the water cooler.
That's what
I would encourage people
to start
asking the hard questions.
So, Lou Elizondo, crystal ball,
let's go one,
two years in the future,
are we going to be
as much in the dark
then as we are now?
No, but, you know, disclosure
isn't a sprint.
It's a marathon.
It's not going to happen
overnight.
Disclosure isn't an event.
It's a process.
I think this next generation,
if our kids are any, indicate
or of of hope.
That's where real
disclosure is going to occur.