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EXCLUSIVE - Ex Pentagon official Luis Elizondo reveals UFO bombshells | The Basement Office
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Lue Elizondo is a former intelligence officer with the Department of Defense. He claims he was the director of AATIP, the Pentagon's "UFO program", from 2010-2017. In this exclusive interview with Steven Greenstreet of "The Basement Office", Elizondo reveals shocking truths about the UFOs the Navy and other military branches have encountered on almost "a daily basis", why some "very senior" officials at the Pentagon tried to suppress UFO evidence, and the jaw-dropping things these UFOs can do.

From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emn6jozxHxU

Transcript:

[Music]
okay
what was your main objective at atip
well it was to to collect and analyze
and try to assess
what the things were that were incurring
into we were encountering in controlled
u.s airspace
these were things that weren't ours uh
we had no idea who they belonged to and
frankly were displaying beyond next
generation technology
for that reason we decided to stick with
two fundamental questions
what is it and how does it work and
figured if we could make some progress
even in one of those areas
that would be considered a victory for
us and then hopefully at some point in
the future let smarter people figure out
where is it from what are the intentions
who's behind the wheel and
and what not what is it how does it work
did you come to any uh conclusions or at
least a best current assessment
regarding either of those
uh we did with one of them
we we had some very very smart people
scientifically focused individuals with
incredible and impeccable credentials
come up with some very interesting
theories and uh
you know to to the best of our knowledge
that we actually may be a little bit
closer understanding
some of the physics and and how so what
it is we still don't know but
i think we are we are well underway
on a path of figuring out how it works
and what are the physics involved
what are the physics involved so there's
five
fundamental observables that when put
into totality of this this
phenomenon really help us appreciate
why this is something that is that is
certainly not our own technology
and so the first one is instantaneous
acceleration the ability to go from
point a to point b
uh and and change directions fairly
rapidly
um to put that into context the average
human being can withstand about nine g
forces for a short period of time before
we start experiencing negative
biological consequences red out
blackouts etc to put that into contrast
an f-16 which is one of our most highly
maneuverable aircraft
can perform about 17 g's before you
start having structural failure wings
begin to
to snap off the objects we're seeing are
doing three four
five six hundred g's um obviously well
beyond the
healthy limitations of anything to to
withstand the next observable is
hypersonic velocity so
let's take this pen again and this is
our airplane uh hypersonic velocities
are those
those speeds that are described at mach
5 or above
now we do have aircraft that can do that
and we have some missiles and some
technology the space shuttle for example
to get to escape velocity which would
have to
go much faster than that the sr-71
can let's say at 3 200 miles an hour
if it wanted to make a left-hand turn
would take about half the state of ohio
to do it
and yet the things we're seeing are
doing not 3 200 miles an hour
but 8 9 10 11 000 miles an hour
in our low atmosphere and able to do
these crazy right angle turns
um so that's that's something pretty
pretty obviously and you saw this
you saw this yes you witnessed this and
that's how you're able to
calculate the speeds and
maneuverabilities is because
you saw things move that fast well we
calculated through also additional
information so it wasn't just
seen as believing it's through radar
data
there is historical radar data that we
have that goes
many decades where these things have
been clocked doing 13 14
15 000 miles an hour not just by one
radar
multiple radars the third observable is
a bit of an oxymoron but it's low
observability now to put that
into into perspective we spend billions
of dollars on a single b2 bomber
just so it's a little bit harder to see
on radar and you can still see it with
the naked eye pretty easily
yet uh what we're seeing here are things
where the pilots that are trained
observers are saying you know lou
i saw it but i don't know how to
describe it because it didn't look like
anything we had doesn't have wings and
have cockpits rivets tails ailerons
elevators none of that and yet there it
is
the fourth observable is something we
call trans medium travel which is now
only being discussed but it's been one
of the observables for a while
so let's take our analogy here's our
plane again a plane looks like a plane
because it has to fly
so you have a nose you have a tail you
have a rudder you have elevators and
ailerons and you have a jet engine
and yet a rocket ship which spends most
of its time in a vacuum environment
a jet engine's useless sore wings so it
has a chemical rocket engine
and it has thrusters to maneuver in
space and compared to a submarine which
is not a jet or a rocket uh because it's
underwater it has a propeller to
mechanically displace water
and it uses buoyancy to go up and down
and whenever we try to
make a vehicle or something
to operate in multiple environments
multiple domains
there's always a design compromise so
let's take a seat plane
a seaplane can fly and it can float but
let's be honest it's neither
a really good plane or a really good
boat it's a compromise
and yet the things that we're seeing are
able to operate in our atmosphere
uh low earth atmosphere high output high
earth atmosphere
earth orbit and and and seemingly
underwater
without without compromising any of
their design characteristics or
performance parameters so
so that's that is very significant and
then last but not least the last
observable
is what one might call positive lift or
or anti-gravity now i don't mean
anti-gravity in the weird you know
lulu sense i mean there's only three
fundamental ways that we understand
how to defy earth's gravity the first
one is the
through through flight so you have four
fundamental forces you have thrust
lift drag and weight and when you know
how to to
to to manipulate those uh you have
flight you have an airplane you have
wings
another way to define earth's gravity is
through sheer ballistics i can glow
something with enough energy out of a
tube
where it will go up like a think of a
mortar think throwing a baseball think
of an icbm
or it will go up and then eventually
come back down
and then the last way we know how to
defy earth's gravity is through
through lighter than air think of a hot
air balloon think of helium or hydrogen
where the air density inside is less
than the air density outside so it
floats
it it rises much like like oil and water
and yet these things have no wings they
have no obvious signs of propulsion they
don't
even even look like anything we have and
yet somehow they're able to defy earth's
gravity
and so when you have all of those
observables being displayed by a single
technology
one begins to realize very quickly that
that that is is certainly a a
a paradigm shift to to what we're used
to dealing with
okay so how much data has been
we have the public has heard of nimitz
go fast
gimbal um you know a few other cases
just recently in
in the last few weeks you know probably
you could count on two hands
how much is there there's a lot
there's there's there's there's
significant amount of data
um i i'm not at liberty to say how much
but enough where i think classified
information being provided to certain
people
um they've come to the same conclusion
that we did and by the way this this
information
comes in on a regular basis this isn't
anecdotal happening in the nimitz and
then happened with the roosevelt that
happened with the kid
this is occurring all the time you're
just hearing about this incident
it hasn't stopped so uh you know let's
let's not fool ourselves people say well
there's only three incidents and
and some videos well yeah that you know
of sure
you're right there's a whole lot more
too uh and
you know in time hopefully those will
those will come out too
how often is this happening
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well i i you know it's it's it's hard to
say because sometimes there's moments of
lots of activity and sometimes there's
not but
i would suffice it to say you know
weekly if not certainly monthly a
theory within the intelligence community
within the dod is that
these uap could be originating from the
world's
oceans could you speak to that
it's possible we don't know we we they
seem to be around water an awful lot
uh you know we we know very little about
our oceans we know more about the moon
than we do the deepest parts of our
ocean
uh you know every time we we ascribe a
quality of what life should be
right like photosynthesis nature proves
us wrong
uh look at chemosynthesis and the life
that exists in the deep
deepest parts of our ocean near black
smokers
that life is very much alive and yet it
doesn't rely on photosynthesis
uh the way we do up here and so uh
the fact that we know very little about
our oceans i think want us to keep at
least
it open as an option that the things may
be
there may be some congruences between
water and uap
activity there certainly seems
anecdotally to be be some some
relationship there
there are a lot of cases either above
near or under even under the water of
these uap
why what's what's water what are some of
what's a theory
um regarding uap and water in their
relationship to water
well i i would defer to to some of my
colleagues who are
are qualified to talk about physics but
it's been proposed that that without
going into a whole lot of detail water
may be
some sort of of simplistic fuel source
um when you look at what water is
comprised of primarily hydrogen and
oxygen
uh you know if you wanted to get a a
yield of energy
um cracking the atom is is one way to do
it and
and the smaller you go into the world of
the atom
the more tightly that energy is is
packaged within
within the atom and subatomic uh
particles of an atom
and so um if you want to warp space-time
some theorize that you need a lot a lot
of energy there's two ways to warp
a lot of mass or a lot of energy and it
turns out that you need a lot a lot of
energy to do it
and if one wanted to to to
harness that energy perhaps one of the
most efficient ways is
is through hydrogen now of course i
could go out i guess in outer space and
mine it in a nebula but but out in space
it's very it's not dense
it's it's it's it may take you a very
long time to do that whereas here on
earth
hydrogen when it's connected with oxygen
it becomes
extremely dense you have this thing
called water h2o
or you have an abundant amount of
hydrogen more hydrogen than you want to
do with
that would be very easy to mine so
that's that's one speculation that's
been
been offered
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it's been reported a lot that you were
the
director or quote-unquote director of
this what we will call the ufo
program is that is that accurate i i was
in charge yes sir
but not not the entire time from 2000 i
came in in 2008 but it wasn't until 2010
that i
i took over the responsibilities and
until i left in 2017.
okay uh why did you leave
wow that's a loaded question um i left
because
of uh of the bureaucracy i left because
a very
good dear friend a good person who was
in charge of the department at the time
a gentleman named jim mattis was a
secretary
wasn't getting the information he needed
to make make decisions that he needed to
make
and because of the bureaucracy i suspect
now hindsight being 2020 they were
probably trying to protect him
um because let's face it i mean this is
a man with a with an incredible
reputation
they're probably worried about
tarnishing him uh
if it came out that he was briefed on
ufos right
so for whatever reason they didn't brief
them but
i i wound up after months and months and
months of briefing very senior
leadership
uh bringing pilots in to testify and
bringing videos and
and photographs and reports um they
still
they acknowledge it was important but
they didn't want to let the boss know so
i resigned i knew that the only thing
they would not be able to stop would be
my resignation memo
and so i addressed it directly to him
and
let him know why i thought this topic
was important
you were running into roadblocks then
essentially you you had this information
you did research investigation
got data and then that data hit a
ceiling it hit a wall
what wall was that
i don't really know i don't i think for
some people the wall was
it was too much of a pill to swallow um
i remember distinctly giving a briefing
to one senior
and after having the pilots there and
and
all the evidence and the reporting um
at the end of the day he just couldn't
process it he looked at me and he
literally asked how are those miami
dolphins doing this season
uh which was perplexing to me and and
people in the briefing
um i guess in in other cases
some individuals have a problem with
this topic because it conflicts with
their philosophical or maybe theological
belief system
i i did experience that as well when you
mentioned something conflict
ufos conflicting with uh those with
some within the pentagon philosophically
or
religiously um were they
because of that did you was there any
proactive
suppressing or limiting of how much you
could do because of that sure i i had to
be very careful i really had to operate
in the shadows more than ever
i was used to doing it because of my my
my job
but you know i wasn't used to running
operations you know
inside my own organization uh
but that's what we had to wind up doing
because there were people
that were certainly uh against this
this effort uh and and only because of
again their
philosophical belief system i had
nothing to do in fact i had one
i remember the conversation very well um
this is a person i respected
tremendously very very senior person
he told me he said lou i want you to
stop stop doing this.
i said okay sir i i certainly can but
may ask why
he says well we already know what it is
now at that moment i
i honestly thought maybe it was our own
technology i was running up against
some super uber secret sap and you know
they were telling me to stop
and i said okay sir so so it's ours
and he said no that's not what i'm
saying
and he said he asked me point blank have
you read your bible lately
and i wasn't quite sure where it was
going with that i said well sir i i
i think i know what it says where are
you going with this
and he said well then you would know
that these things are are demonic
and we should not be pursuing them yeah
and
uh i i he was he wasn't kidding me but
that's
exactly how how he felt so this is a
pentagon
this is a department of defense official
uh saying stop looking at ufos because
they're demonic
correct but if something demonic is
flying over
our skies wouldn't religious people want
to fight them
well you know i i think look i
i think no matter what it is we need to
figure it out and uh
you know there was a time and this is
look i i
i'm a religious person but you know
there was a time where the church
wouldn't even look through the telescope
of galileo because
uh it conflicted with their their their
narrative only to
you know years later them to come out
and and actually now
you know use use the the grandeur of the
universe to support
their their their you know their
philosophical
and theological belief system so uh i
i am under the the presumption that that
more data is good and i don't think we
should ever be fearful of data
uh and uh it doesn't matter if they
are at the end of the day some sort of
super secret for an adversarial
technology that's leapfrogged us
or if it's little green meant from mars
or if it's demons
we probably need to figure it out
because it's in our airspace and by the
way it doesn't care
if what we think because it's there
and it's it's interacting with not even
that's just our military but even
civilian aircraft and and and civilians
may 2019 uh i was
doing the my show for the new york post
basement office
and just nonchalantly reached out to the
pentagon for boilerplate
statement on atip because i just wanted
my own statement
and in there they said that you had
nothing no they said you had no
responsibilities with atib
and then i followed up with um
the spokesman at the at the time chris
sherwood
what do you mean he had nothing to do
with atip
uh chris said to me on the phone i'm not
really happy with the way they're
handling this story
they internally at the pentagon he was
frustrated with that statement
chris goes away suga goff comes in there
and then she
issues a new statement saying lou had no
assigned responsibilities with regards
to a-10
yeah why would the pentagon consistently
be saying this
well because my assigned duties were
through the
read on document from 2009 that
substantiates what i was doing and
of course thankfully senator harry reid
has set that record straight many times
for the record of what my role was and
my name is clearly on that documentation
and all the documentation this is
this goes back to what i told you
there's some people in the pentagon that
still don't like me very much
and unfortunately uh colonel goff
by the way interesting background of
around
uh was not being well served she was
getting information
from from people there that were
formerly in my chain of command that
really did not like me coming out and
that's the bottom line so
now they're threading the needle because
of course dana white first said yeah lou
was part of a tip and it was all about
ufos
and then of course sherwood comes in and
they try to backtrack a little bit now
he had nothing to do with it
well now that they know they can't say i
had nothing to do with it they're now
trying to thread the needle saying well
he had no assigned responsibilities
meaning
through the usdi chain of command i had
no assigned responsibilities because i
was
i was working git mode for them
guantanamo bay so you know this was
this was these assigned duties were
coming from from
the legislative branch and that's where
you see the documentation
i suspect between you and me and now
your audience that
um you know if the pentagon continues on
that
that line of narrative um will probably
be
a a big mistake for them um there's
enough people now
in the pentagon and on the hill that
know exactly who i was and what i did
and um you know it's going to continue
to hurt their credibility
but you know that's within the same
comments goff's comment she says atip
had nothing to do with ufos
also now now lou i understand someone in
the pentagon
having a personal problem with you not
liking you
for whatever reason but to release to
the public of the united states
to have that translated well i mean look
if this was about me then yeah i would
have had a lawsuit right now to
the out of them and right now you
know it would be
a different story but it's important to
note that
i my purpose is not to make an enemy of
the government
i think the government is right now
trying to
to figure this out like everybody else i
think they want some breathing room
i think they're pissed at me for the way
i left okay i got it
but at the end of the day i think i
think we all want the same thing we all
want resolution
and so i'm willing to give them a buy
for now
um most most journalists have done their
due diligence
they have the documentation they they
know exactly who i am and they know what
atip is and by the way
you know harry reid has said again for
the record hey a tip was about ufos i
should know because it was my program
right so the the dod particularly the
pao and susan goff can can play these
games
but look the american people are going
to judge and and history is watching
and right now they don't need any more
help digging a hole
they are digging their own hole from a
pao perspective
uh i think they're desperately trying to
find a way to get out of that hole
and you know i i'll offer my assistants
any way i can
um but they don't they don't need any
help digging right now
they're i think they're uh they're
desperately trying to find a solution to
this and
and personally you know this is not
about me i i you know
if the cost of of being where we are
today
is that some people at the pentagon want
to you know try to throw me under the
bus
you know i'll gladly accept it that's
that's well worth the cost of of getting
to where we are today in three years we
have now
the acknowledgement that the videos were
real they are of uap's we have a uap
task force under secretary
secretary norquist we have reports
classified briefings being provided to
congress and we have a report
that's due to congress about the uap
issue
not bad for three years it's pretty
incredible stuff
that this stuff is being speculated
within
you know reputable scientists within the
government uh within the pentagon that
this is
this is what you're saying would be in a
star trek episode or something but we're
talking about like
the halls of our defense agencies
uh you know scientists within there
saying this
that's mine but wasn't wasn't our flip
phone in the 90s star trek wasn't that
star trek in the 60s wasn't
our are our tricorder our scanners
uh all all star trek and now it's it's
reality it's
it's it's not really star trek it's just
advanced physics
okay this is some of this stuff is
really hard to comprehend because
when you really take more than one
minute to sit back and think about it
the the existence of ufos
not a balloon not a drone but something
else a phenomenon it's a
it's a mixture of of emotions
um so
so that's that's that's actually uh i
think
i think that's that's um that's an
interesting perspective because you know
this is this is important um
and i've mentioned this before but i'm
not sure it's it's it
it's resonated yet um
we are a very our species and some
scientists have now
have attributed this to what they call
this soci
cardiosocial phenomenon meaning the
first nine months of our entire life is
spent in our mother's womb for the most
part and
and we hear our mother's heartbeat and
that is a binary on off rhythm and
because of that
it affects the way we view the world the
way we view nature the way we interact
with each other to the point where
we look at everything in in terms of
extremes so it's an either or
solution so what do i mean by that well
if you ever talk to anybody on the
street
they'll tell you uh in terms of it's
either up or down
left or right hot or cold black or white
you know good or bad we always look in
terms of either or scenarios and so
when you talk about this topic the
phenomenon people say well it's either
from
earth or it's from outer space it's
extraterrestrial
but in reality that's not necessarily so
there's a whole bunch of other
potentials and options that this could
be
and we're just used to thinking that way
but nature
usually well let's look at physics for
example let's look at the reality right
now i'm having a conversation with you
and i'm i i perceive my entire universe
based upon the five fundamentals
if you will senses that i have touch
taste hearing
smelling right what not and that's it
that's how i judge the entire universe
and yet
there's this entire reality around me
that i can't perceive i have wi-fi
signals coursing through my
body i have cosmic radiation coming in
from outer space
i have cellular signals bombarding my
body in gps and all these realities
going around me
even in the visible light spectrum okay
i can only see within a narrow band
anything in the infrared or ultraviolet
or beyond that
i can't perceive i need i need
technology to to interface with that
so so by definition most of the universe
i can't even proceed and then when you
look at the unit you look at the human
being in the context of scale
if you look at the very very small to
the very very large of our universe
right
the human being sits right roughly in
the very middle
so the universe is about 27 billion
light years from side to side that we
can see in the visible universe
and to scale as big as that is when you
look at the subatomic particles
in the atoms that make up our body
they're roughly the same scale meaning
they're at 1 times 10 to the minus 26 in
size
so so you have this equally
large universe inside every human being
and so my point being is that
the majority of the universe that we
interact with we will never be able to
see look at the night sky
and look at the pretty stars now look
through it through a radio telescope
you're going to see nebula you're going
to see things that are right in front of
your eyes
but you can't see them so is it possible
that there is more to to reality and to
life
than just the very narrow band in which
we perceive it
and in which we live and scale is it
possible well
i would submit to you that most of
mother nature every time we try to
define who she is
she defies her explanation she doesn't
fit in a neat little box
so there are things you've established
that in broad terms there are things in
front of our eyes we can't see
uh on a more micro
scale would that also apply to uap
sure why not i guess my point is that we
we have to keep all
options on the table until they're not
this is something we have been dealing
with
for for a long time and and like a lot
of things
imagine the first person who decided to
get on a boat and sail over the horizon
right
and there's discussion of sea monsters
and krakens that will devour you and
destroy your boat
and yet we did it anyways we did sail
and and and we we explored the world and
it turns out you know
500 years later yeah there really are
sea monsters except except for we call
them
the great squid of the pacific and we
call them great white sharks and whales
now they're just part of nature they
have a scientific name
but you know those sea monsters still
exist
they're there we just learned to
understand them
and maybe this is the same thing maybe
this is just yet another
uh uh another expedition over the
horizon
in which we're going to realize what we
thought were
were monsters or really just
neighbors
what lou
oh man that's a perfect analogy so
you're saying
you know just at the point that humanity
thought they had discovered everything
on planet earth
we you ufos have represented not so fast
there's more to discover
that's possible and that's why i say we
we really need to do ourselves a favor
and leave all options on the table until
we have more data
okay sea monsters wow