YouTube Channel: "NBC News" Video Title: "Former Pentagon insider shares details on UFOs in new book" Former Pentagon insider shares details on UFOs in new book 84,870 views Aug 27, 2024 NBC News' Gadi Schwartz speaks with former Pentagon insider Luis Elizondo about his new book on UFO investigations. From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7-vKn-Qqbg Transcript: >> NEWS FOR THE GENERATION OF NOW IS NBC NEWS NOW. >>> TONIGHT IN THE FUTURE OF EVERYTHING, BY NOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THIS VIDEO YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT. UFOS. THAT IS WHAT THIS NEW BOOK IS ALL ABOUT. IMMINENT INSIDE THE PENTAGON, THE HUNT FOR UFOS. WHAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW IS THAT THE GUY WHO WROTE THIS IS ACTUALLY THE GUY BEHIND THOSE VIDEOS BEING DECLASSIFIED AND VIDEOS BEING DECLASSIFIED AND RELEASED. LUIS ELIZONDO WAS A HIGH RANKING INSIDER WHO IS SO FRUSTRATED WITH ATTEMPTS TO COVER UP INFORMATION ABOUT UFOS THAT HE IS THE ONE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET THOSE IMAGES TO THE PUBLIC IN 2017 AND IN THIS NEW BOOK HE'S GOT STORIES THAT WILL MAKE THOSE VIDEOS LOOK LIKE NOTHING. HE JOINS US NOW. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS AND OUR AUDIENCE IS PRETTY FAR AHEAD OF THE CURVE SO WE CAN JUMP STRAIGHT IN. THERE IS A LOT IN THIS BOOK THAT IMMEDIATELY RAISE MY EYEBROWS. YOU NEVER TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE TRAINED AS A REMOTE VIEWER. THAT'S LIKE MEN WHO STARE AT GOATS STYLE PSYCHICALLY TRAINED SPY STUFF, RIGHT? >> IT CERTAINLY SEEMS THAT WAY BUT IN REALITY THE GOVERNMENT HAS A LONG HISTORY AND AFFINITY WITH BASICALLY ANY TYPE OF CAPABILITY TO SPY OR GET THE ADVANTAGE ON ADVERSARIES. REMOTE VIEWING WAS STARTED BY ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES BACK IN THE LATE 60s AND EARLY 70s USING AT THE TIME, STANFORD UNIVERSITY WITH THE CIA TO ACTUALLY CREATE A PSYCHIC ESPIONAGE PROGRAM CALLED STARGATE. IT HAD OTHER NAMES AS WELL BUT STARGATE IS PERHAPS THE MOST FAMOUS NAME BY THAT PROGRAM. >> IN YOUR BOOK YOU SAY THAT OTHER COUNTRIES ARE PROBABLY STILL USING SOME OF THESE PSYCHIC ABILITIES AND FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD THERE, SOME OF OUR TRAINED SOLDIERS INCLUDING YOU WERE ALSO AND ALSO ARE POSSIBLE USING THEM. IS THAT CORRECT? >> LET'S FACE IT. EVEN TODAY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT I KNOW IT SOUNDS KOOKY BUT PSYCHICS HAVE BEEN USED TO A GREAT DEAL OF SUCCESS. I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS WHEN PEOPLE SAY PSYCHIC ESPIONAGE PEOPLE SAY PSYCHIC ESPIONAGE AND WHATNOT THEY THINK OF THE WOO FACTOR BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT CAPABILITY IS PART OF HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS, THE BRAIN ASPECT WHICH MAY BE TIED TO QUANTUM MECHANICS AND FRANKLY QUANTUM ENTITLEMENT SO WE MAY BE-- WE MAY NOT BE TALKING ABOUT SCIENCE FICTION, BUT ADVANCED SCIENTIFIC FACT. >> I DON'T WANT TO EAT INTO THE TIME ON UFOS BECAUSE OF POSSIBLY THE BIGGEST EXISTENTIAL QUESTION EVER. IN YOUR BOOK YOU SAY YOU COULD WRITE A BOOK ABOUT REMOTE VIEWING. WE WILL CIRCLE BACK AND HAVE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT BUT LET'S JUMP STRAIGHT INTO THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT STUCK OUT FROM THIS BOOK. YOU SAY ONE OF THE FIRST CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU HAD WITH HAL, YOU WERE TOLD THAT ROSWELL WAS REAL AND IT WAS COVERED UP AND THERE WERE FOUR NONHUMAN BODIES RECOVERED FROM THAT CRASH . IF THAT HAPPENED WHERE ARE THE BODIES AND WHERE IS THE CRAFT? HOW MANY BODIES AND CRAFTS DO YOU THINK THE GOVERNMENT HAS? >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. THE BODIES WERE TAKEN INITIALLY TO A MILITARY INSTALLATION AND FROM THERE IT GETS A LITTLE MURKY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ALSO DON'T KNOW THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO CRASHES. PUTTING THIS ON A VERY QUICK BACKDROP, ROSWELL IS WHERE WE LOCATED THE BOMBERS SPECIFICALLY OUTFITTED RIGHT AFTER WE DROPPED BONDS ON HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI TO CARRY AN OUT A BOMB. IT WAS ONE OF THE ONLY AIRBASES IN THE WORLD AND WE KNOW THAT THEY HAD AN AFFINITY BOTH TO NUCLEAR CAPABILITIES AND MILITARY CAPABILITIES. >> I AM FROM NEW MEXICO SO I GREW UP WITH THIS LAURA AND YOU KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE THESE CRASHES WERE HAPPENING IN NEW MEXICO BECAUSE OF THE DAWN OF THE NUCLEAR AGE AND PULSES THAT MAYBE MESS WITH THE CRAFT. IS THAT RIGHT? >> THE CURRENT THEORY IS THAT WE WERE TESTING A PARTICULAR DEVICE AND IT HAPPENED TO INTERFERE WITH THE PROPULSION UNITS. I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT IT APPEARS THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED. THE US GOVERNMENT AS A RESULT WAS ABLE TO RECOVER ONE OF THESE VEHICLES AND HIDE IT AWAY. >> SO MUCH OF THIS TRACKS WITH WHAT WAS TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF CONGRESS. EVERYBODY WAS WATCHING THAT. WE PRESSED ON SPECIFICS AND CAN'T PROVIDE THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE CLASSIFIED IN ROSWELL IN PARTICULAR BUT IN YOUR BOOK YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH A YEAR-LONG DOD REVIEW PROCESS. WHY DID THEY NOT REDACT THE ROSWELL STUFF OR A LOT OF THE OTHER SPECIFICS FROM YOUR BOOK? >> THAT I CANNOT TELL YOU. IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WROTE THE BOOK. ONCE YOU WRITE SOMETHING IT BECOMES INDELIBLE AND PART OF THE RECORD AND I KNEW THAT BECAUSE I HOLD A SECURITY CLEARANCE I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE OFFICIAL PROCESS WHICH ALMOST TOOK A YEAR. THAT'S A PRETTY LONG TIME AND WHEN I GOT THE BOOK BACK THERE ARE STILL REDUCTIONS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOOK YOU WILL SEE BLACKED OUT AREAS THAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS NOT VERY HAPPY WITH ME DISCUSSING, SO THEY THOUGHT IT WAS TOO SENSITIVE BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT DAVID IS 100% LEGITIMATE. WE WERE COLLEAGUES AND WHAT HE TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS ONLY A FRACTION OF WHAT HE KNOWS. >> THE PENTAGON HAS SAID THEY HAVE LOOKED INTO CRASH RETRIEVALS AND UNDER THE OFFICE THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW THEY FOUND NO SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE OF ANY OF THIS EXISTING. WHEN YOU SEE THOSE STATEMENTS COMING OUT FROM THE DOD WHAT IS YOUR REACTION? >> MY STATEMENT IS TO TRY HARDER. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE AND WE KNOW THAT THE PENTAGON NEVER LIES EXCEPT FOR PENTAGON PAPERS AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THE US GOVERNMENT IS AWARE OF THIS SINCE THE END OF THE 40s AND EVEN DURING THE 1940S WITH THE FOO FIGHTERS WHERE ALLIED PILOTS ARE ENCOUNTERING UFOS WHILE IN COMBAT. THIS IS NOTHING NEW FOR THE US GOVERNMENT AND PEOPLE LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS AND SAY WELL THAT'S THE FIRST PROGRAM BUT IT WASN'T. THERE WAS A LONG SUCCESSION OF USO-- UFO PROGRAMS, OFFICIALLY SANCTIONED PROGRAMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOR DECADES AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW. >> TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY SHOULD KNOW AND WHAT IS TRUE AND WHAT IS NOT, IN THE BOOK YOU WERE ALLEGING THAT YOU AP'S CAN HURT PEOPLE AND YOU DESCRIBE REPORTS OF PEOPLE BEING BURNED OR PEOPLE DYING, IMPLANTS THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM HUMAN BODIES. THOSE ARE TERRIFYING TO READ ABOUT BUT YET WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE? >> THE PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON MILITARY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS, CAMERA FOOTAGE AND RADAR FOOTAGE. WE WERE NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN CIVILIAN DATA TOO MUCH. THESE ANECDOTES WHERE GRANDMA MAY BE SAW A LIGHT IN THE MAY BE SAW A LIGHT IN THE BACKYARD, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT OBSERVERS WITH SOME OF THE MOST SOPHISTICATED TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE OUT THERE. RADAR, GUN CAMERA FOOTAGE AND OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL-- TECHNOLOGIES COLLECTING THE SAME INFORMATION AND UNDER THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. BY THE WAY CAN OUTPERFORM ANYTHING WE HAVE IN OUR INVENTORY. >> A GOVERNMENT TRAINED SPY THAT HAS POSSIBLE PSYCHIC ABILITIES WERE ABLE TO REMOTE VIEW. ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I WOULD PROBABLY DO EVEN IF I LEFT THE GOVERNMENT WAS TO SIT DOWN, TO USE WHATEVER ABILITIES THAT I HAD TO REMOTE VIEW MYSELF INTO A UFO. HAVE YOU DONE THAT? >> I NEVER SAID I WAS A GOOD REMOTE VIEWER. I WAS TAUGHT SOME TECHNIQUES BY ONE OF THE TOP ARMY REMOTE VIEWERS. A WONDERFUL GENTLEMEN, VERY GIFTED. SADLY I WAS NOT THAT GIFTED BUT TURNS OUT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND ONCE YOU TALK WITH SOME OF THE SCIENTISTS , IT IS NOT PARANORMAL LIKE PEOPLE SUGGESTED. IT'S PROBABLY SOME LATENT CAPABILITY THAT HUMANS HAVE HAD FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE WE WERE ABLE TO VERBALIZE COMMUNICATION AND BECOME VERY SOPHISTICATED. WHEN A DOG COMES ACROSS EACH OTHER AND THEY SEE EACH OTHER THERE IS NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION. SOME SCIENTIST SPECULATE THAT MAYBE THAT IS SOMETHING WE CALL PSYCHIC BUT IN REALITY IT'S A NORMAL PART OF HUMAN INTERACTIONS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN DO IT. >> WE DIDN'T EVEN GET INTO THE - THAT HAVE BEEN HARASSING YOU - THAT HAVE BEEN HARASSING YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. WE REALLY DO