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LIVE: Pentagon UFO Whistleblower Lue Elizondo Answers Your Questions
48,367 views  Streamed live on Sep 15, 2024

On The Good Trouble Show podcast, #TGTS, the Pentagon's UAP secrets continue to be exposed as former intelligence official Lue Elizondo, former director of the Pentagon's classified UAP / UFO program, AATIP, joins us LIVE to discuss his #1 New York Times Best Seller, "Imminent," along with discussion about the UAP Disclosure Act, David Grusch, and the national security threat of UAP.  Bring your questions for Lue Elizondo!

With the United States Senate considering the inclusion of The Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena  (UAP) Act, otherwise known as The Schumer Amendment, sponsored by Senators Chuck Schumer, Mike Rounds, Kirsten Gillibrand, Martin Heinrich, and others, people are paying attention to allegations by whistleblowers David Grusch and Lue Elizondo as the nation grapples with how to deal with the reality of UAP.

From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6YUCSDJhp4&t=251s

Transcript:

[Music]
hey everyone I'm Matt and welcome to the
good trouble show for over 70 years the
United States Department of Defense
along with the Central Intelligence
Agency has been lying to Congress and
the American voter about uaps otherwise
known as UFOs in an in an attack on our
liberal democracy these government
agencies have avoided congressional
oversight and engaged in psychological
warfare against the American populace
all to convince them that there is well
nothing to see here in terms of the
whole UAP thing UAP waved special access
programs involving recovery and reverse
engineering which were classified in the
department of energy under the atomic
energy Act of 1954 as trans classified
nuclear information all to hide it from
Congress now fortunately Senators Mike
rounds and Chuck Schumer have introduced
the unidentified anomalous phenomenon
disclosure Act of 2024 which would
expose what the government has been
hiding and I encourage all of you at
home I've been saying this day after day
after uh Day lately uh the legislation
is in trouble so I encourage all of you
who are watching this tomorrow morning
8:00 a.m. whatever time zone you're in
get on the phone and call your lawmakers
first thing and tell them that you
demand absolutely demand the passage of
this act the bottom line is the
government has gone to Great Lengths to
tell you that there is nothing to see
here even telling the American public
the uh Department of Defense stopped
investigating UFOs with Project Blue
Book in 1970 well guess what it turns
out that well that was yet another lie
from our government and a long list of
uh uh dishonest things that they don't
tell the American people about so all of
this was blown wide open in 2017 when
the New York Times ran the story glowing
auras and black money the pentagon's
mysterious UFO program with the former
director of that program Lou alzando
went public basically exposing that the
Pentagon had been studying the UAP issue
for decades today Lou joins us live to
discuss his new book and why UAP is the
new government legislation and why UAP
is a significant National Security
concern and that is why we got to get
this legislation over the uh over the
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Dr Gary Nolan joins us to discuss why
the UAP disclosure Act is so important
it is critical
and um yeah it's uh it's really going to
be uh really going to be something else
uh Gary had a lot to say we did
pre-record the interview he had a lot to
say about the UAP disclosure act the
state of disclosure Arrow uh I would say
he had some very uh interesting words
regarding former AOW director Sean
cpatrick that I think all of you will uh
be interested in in hearing we will post
the link on our X account here in a
couple hours All Right Moving On Our
Guest is a proud Army veteran Former
Intelligence agent and head of the
pentagon's UAP program the advanced
Aerospace threat identification program
which everyone knows is a tip here to
discuss his new book and number one New
York Times bestseller imminent and how
UAP is a national security issue we
should all be concerned about please
welcome Lou alzando uh Lou uh thanks for
joining us how are you sir Matt is my uh
my sincere privilege to be with you and
your your wonderful audience here today
thank you very much been on the road
quite a bit but I really wanted to have
an opportunity to to engage your
audience uh you've got I mean man you
got got one heck of a reach man I
everywhere I go people are pulling
pulling my shoulder and asking me I
tugging on my sleeve and saying hey do
do you know this Matt Ford guy I'm like
yeah actually I I do they're like man
he's doing great stuff so um kudos to
you thank you for continuing to doggedly
pursue this this topic uh it is
important it is a national security
issue and it's also a constitutional ISS
um it I you know I think people look at
this and say well some folks just say I
just want to know the truth but but it's
more than that right it's it you have
elements within the government that are
conducting extra constitutional
activities outside the normal boundaries
of of our rules and laws um to protect
information that frankly in some cases
they they don't have the authority to to
do um and it's really a this is more
than just a hey I want to know this is
this is a constitutional issue now this
has become this is this is raised to the
point now
where if they are doing this with this
topic then we have to start asking the
hard questions what else are they trying
to to hide and and we definitely going
to dig into that a little bit but I I
want to give a shout out to your book so
uh so you just released which is your
first book uh emminent and it rocketed
to number one on the New York Times best
seller list uh which I'd have to say is
H is is pretty darn good for your uh for
your first book are you are you are you
surprised are you in shock about the
success of it you know Matt a couple
things first of all thank you very much
um it it it is a little bit of a surreal
experience but that wasn't my motivation
for writing the book um I I wrote the
book spec very specific reasons uh one
of them was to to tell the American
people the truth about my experiences
and and more importantly um you know
words words are indelible they're not
like U an interview you do where they
kind of gets lost in the in the ethernet
and the ones and the zeros and people
listen to it now but it's gone tomorrow
words are indelible and furthermore I
when it goes through the Pentagon for
Security review um that means I can now
talk about it whereas before I always
had to kind of like hide behind an NDA a
little bit and say well I really can't
talk about that now I can because the
government has authorized me up at this
point anyways to talk whatever's in the
book I can talk about um I I never wrote
the book for it to be a bestseller I
think that's an indicator of the
appetite of the American people to know
the truth um it's not that Lou alzando
wrote a book it's hey there's a book out
there that is discussing a topic that's
been hidden purposefully by certain
elements in the government and and we
want to know more right and so part of
that credit is really the your audience
you people like you and and the folks
listening to your show right now who who
want to know the truth they're tired of
being lied to they're they're tired of
being deceived they're tired of the Gams
um and you know they they want to know
and so as much as I I I appreciate the
credit saying oh my gosh never wrote a
book before and now it's a New York
Times bestseller that's not because of
my writing skills I got to be completely
honest with you it's not because I
happen to be a a master poet in in you
know literary works that's certainly not
the case um I think it's because frankly
your audience and others like your
audience are just tired of being lied to
and deceived and they want to know the
truth and so to some degree really that
credit of being a New York Times
bestseller isn't my credit to take it's
it's really credit to your audience
because they're they they're tired of
being being told one thing and and and
realizing the truth is something else
yeah they they haven't I would say they
definitely have not been truthful about
a lot of things burn pits I mean the
list list goes on and on so so let's
really get really get right to it so one
thing I've never quite understood is why
is the government's position on UAP so
confusing so in in one breath they say
they are real but then in the other
breath you have former head of the
pentagon's UAP program Dr Sean
Kirkpatrick head of Arrow uh saying that
there's nothing to see here why is the
messaging so
mixed well that's a great question and I
think it has to do with the fact that
the US government is first of all it's
it's really big and it's also really
fragmented people think that the US
government is this if you will this um
monolithic Enterprise right uh that we
call the government but in reality the
government is more like a confederation
of of different Thoms uh whether it's
Department of energy Department of
Defense and the intelligence Community
they all have their their own interests
and they all have their own authorities
and they all have and look this is the
real reason why I got to just tell you
why 911 happened people say well 911 was
caused by by a bunch of terrorists no
that was a result of 911 the cause was
actually because we had information in
the CIA we had information in the FBI we
had information in the dod and we
weren't sharing that information and
what happened is that now bad guys were
allowed to do bad things and so the
government uh unfortunately does not
share information as sometimes messaging
with itself and you have these competing
agendas and case and point like you just
highlighted you know you have literally
the former Director of National
Intelligence Ratcliffe and even Clapper
you have a former director of CIA brenon
you have a former president of the
United States Obama and a former
president of the United States Donald
Trump all saying by the way bipartisan
right all saying the same thing uh and
then you've got this underling somewhere
deep down inside saying n nothing to see
here folks um you know oh by the way
let's not forget this little statistic
right the first report they come out uh
I think it was like the 90day or 180-day
report they said oh there's only 143 uh
uh you know incidents that we couldn't
figure out we'll we'll get to it in the
next report the next report comes out oh
yeah it looks like it's like 300 and
something the next report comes out oh
it's now 800 right so we're beginning to
realize that you know we're not
resolving anything we're actually
realizing there's a lot more and to to
highlight that case in point is that
when we began to actually adjust our
radar systems to actually try to look
for UAP what happens we start finding
Chinese spy balloons just wafting over
the northern Continental of the United
States and this is right on the heels of
of several in our government saying no
no we have complete aerody domain
awareness we know everything that's
flying in our skies and oops wait a
minute there's a few balloons up there
we we should pay attention to right yeah
no no exactly now now I understand of
course that you know as you mentioned
that this is spread out over multiple
nodes of government how I understand it
is that it's a combination of around 50
sces folks in conjunction with uh sort
of kind of the equivalent in in terms of
Executives in uh in defense contractors
but it would seem that there is one
person or one group that is somewhere in
the government uh that is making the
final decisions in terms of what goes
out and what doesn't is that accurate
and who would that be or what what
position would it be uh you know uh
under Secretary of Defense uh because as
I understand it it's the deputy level
people in government that are The
Gatekeepers yeah so there there's
actually uh
there's two factions in from my from my
observations and let me just preface my
observations I can't State this as fact
I can only say it based upon my own
observations there there's there's two
subfacet you have those individuals that
have been associated with what is in the
book referred to as a legacy program the
longstanding effort over the decades uh
to try to figure out how these things
work and possibly exploit that
technology and then you've got another
group of people like uh you see now the
newer folks um like the former director
of Arrow who was only there for a little
while um trying to say you know as of
now there's nothing to see here folks
and so I think um I think there's a
loose level of coordination going on
between the two I don't think it's
formalized I don't think it's uh overly
sophisticated I think it's more of just
of a a head nod case in point um Arrow
had recently stated with the old
previous director that they went
everywhere throughout the entire
government to try to you know find
anybody who a program and they found
nothing well the truth to that statement
may be correct because they didn't go
everywhere uh because I know personal
individuals in organizations that came
to me they said L they never came by uh
they never asked us anything and we
could have given them some information
then you have uh other folks coming
telling me that you know they came by
and they knocked on the door and they
said knock knock you have any UFO stuff
and they looked at them and said uh
we're not letting you in here without
without the proper access and they
walked away and never came back so uh
there is that and to me that's probably
more negligence than it is trying to
purposeful obfuscation it's you know
walking around with blinders on and
saying well I don't see anything well
it's because you're walking around
blinders right right you've got the
other folks that are saying hey look you
know we actually have have real
investment real capital in this topic uh
we have a
longstanding um emphasis in trying to
figure this out and we don't want to
have the conversation yet for several
reasons U one could be that um criminal
culpability they are afraid look we have
lied to Congress we have lied to the
president we have lied to the American
people um and at some point you know
there's there's going to be an atonement
for that um that're they're going to
have to figure a way out of that because
you don't lie to Congress you don't lie
to the President right and so U the
American people they realize they're
going to be they're going to have a
firestorm to deal with and then you've
also got business issues you have to
worry about so let's say you have
company a and Company B both are
Aerospace corporations in let's say the
the 1950s
and somebody in the government comes by
and gives company a slides them some
material and say I want you to analyze
this for me 10 years later company a
becomes a multi-billion dollar company
company B that didn't get a chance to
look at that material uh or or do any
type of exploitation to it winds up
going bankrupt and 200 jobs are lost and
investors uh lose their investment in
the company so there are there are Fair
Trade Practices uh within the US
government that you have to be you have
to allow companies to to viy uh fairly
for a contract and if you unfairly give
advantage to one company over another
because let's say I'm someone in the Air
Force or the CIA and I I want to you
know give a sweetheart deal to company a
that's there's a problem with that I
mean there's SEC violations involved
with that that could come back there
could be billions of dollars worth of
liability there been lawsuits um so it
it you know it's a complicated ball of
yarn I can understand why some
individuals are very nervous now to have
this conversation but I will also tell
you Matt that there is a faction of
people in the government that's that's
to me it's uh it it's
very uh how shall I say it's um I
appreciate what they're trying to do
it's very encouraging because there
seems to be an equal number of
individuals in our government right now
and in our intelligence community that
want to have the conversation to happen
they're like look we know it's real
we're tracking this stuff we're seeing
this stuff on a regular and continuing
basis we got access to the classified
systems this is dumb not to tell the
American people the truth it the time
has come there's no there may have been
a reason during the Cold War not to have
this conversation but we're not in a
cold war anymore and probably we should
start having this conversation why
because other countries are having it
and we're not and so I think over the
last seven years we're beginning to see
a shift in this conversation you're
seeing it in Congress you're seeing it
in the media you're seeing it with the
with the public
Zeitgeist um people want to know the
truth truth they're tired of being lied
to
absolutely you know you just said it
right you said well whether it's burn
pits or it's Iran Contra or it's
Pentagon papers or it's Afghanistan
withdrawal or the use of Agent Orange
you know and all these other things that
the government has time and time and
time again straight up to your face lied
and then later on they get caught with
their hand in the cookie jar they say oh
sorry we won't do it again yeah it's a
feature not a bug I would say but but or
or I guess my real question is
organizationally is there one person
where the buck stops in terms of
deciding whether to tell the president
is it the National Security advisor or
is it looser than that the Joint Chiefs
of Staff looser than I can tell you what
you're saying is accurate but I I don't
think they're the decision maker I think
you know the the for example the
National Security Council will make a
decision if they want to you know bother
the president with something uh and so
that's part of the problem uh because
you know we shouldn't presume or assume
anything in my from my perspective the
President should know everything and
historically we know there have been
presidents that have been briefed on
this topic like George Bush Senior and
then there's been presidents who haven't
been briefed on it because they're
considered temporary hires right
somebody who's going to be here for four
years and then gone no military no
intelligence experience so so why brief
a politician on something at the end of
the day if they can't really be trusted
um so and I think that's there lies the
problem right because no one I don't
care who you are has the authority to
make that decision at the end of the day
there are people in Congress who have an
oversight responsibility and they have
to be briefed it doesn't matter what you
think they have to be briefed and the
same thing from accountability
perspective and same thing with the
president of the United States if
someone is making a decision to not
brief the president of United States
right the senior executive in our nation
the the top of one branch of three
branches of our government someone Below
in the bureaucracy is saying no we're
not going to brief them that's a problem
right this goes back to the extra
constitutional uh activities I I
mentioned earlier on when we first
started this conversation someone is
making a decision to break the law
simply because they believe they have a
better understanding of of what the
American people should and should not
know and that is what that is what
drives me every single day to do what I
do I mean it it truly is a threat to our
our democracy and every every way shape
uh and and form that that you can
imagine let's let's dig a little bit
more into the specific of what you said
in the book in terms of UAP you
mentioned that UAP seemed to be
conducting surveillance of our military
capabilities and note the long history
of these craft tampering with our
landbased strategic nuclear weapons how
can this not be considered a a a threat
I mean full stop threat I mean it seems
to be preparation of
Battlefield yeah mat great great
question um let me see if I can if I can
hone in a little bit on on that um and
some of it may seem a little redundant
because I've said it before to other
people but in case you have any new
listeners I I think it's it's a really
good point so first of all there's a
difference between a national security
threat and a national security issue
right now in in my book I make sure to
make the difference to differentiate
between the two and I highlight that
this is a national security issue but
we're not quite sure if it's a national
security threat so what do I mean by
that and I know people saying well
you're you're you're parsing words but
but I'm not really so how do we know if
something is a national security threat
it's very simple it's a two-part
calculus it's capabilities versus intent
we've seen some of the capabilities of
these UAP and yes they can fly unimpeded
over controlled us airspace and over
sensitive military installations and
possibly interfere with our nuclear
equities so those are some pretty
incredible capabilities we have no idea
the intent yet we haven't a clue right
so we don't know it's a threat so to put
this into my more common parlance let me
give you a quick uh analogy that I like
to use and I'm sure you've heard it over
and over again but if you have any new
listeners I think it helps Drive the
point home um Matt I know you live in a
in a beautiful area part of the country
and very very safe but let me ask you do
you and your partner uh do you lock the
front door at night before you go to bed
oh absolutely right and not that we
expect anything bad to happen but most
people would agree it is
LA right yeah well know I live too I I I
lock the front door and and some folks
may go the step further to go ahead and
secure their windows at night and even
maybe turn on the alarm right before you
go to bed let's say one morning you wake
up to have a nice hot cup of coffee or
tea and as you come
downstairs um all of a sudden you see
size 12 muddy bootprints on your living
room carpet now no one's been hurt
nothing's out of place nothing's been
taken but despite you the night before
locking the front doors and securing the
windows and turning on the alarm there
are now muddy bootprints on your carpet
floor that weren't there the night
before my question to you is is a threat
well my response would be it could be if
it wanted to be so we probably should
figure out how it's getting there right
and this is kind of the same analogy
from a national security perspective we
can see what these things can do but we
have no idea yet the intent and so
therefore ero it is a national security
issue we don't know a threat yet but it
is certainly an issue because we haven't
been able to figure that out yet yeah if
I wake up one day to size 12 uh
footprints on my kitchen floor I'll I
know that our friends from jck decided
to come over and leave a leave a calling
card for me so so back to the back to
the nuclear issue you know we talked
about our land-based strategic nuclear
deterrent being tampered with minam 1 2
3 and then previous to that have you
come across information that our
submarine nuclear icbms have been
tampered with Trident 2 platform or
anything prior no but let me share a
story with you that um that I can I can
say um there has been some historical
reporting that there's been interest by
UAP in some of our nuclear equities
underwater nuclear equities I'll be very
careful what I say and how I say it I
was speaking to a submarine Commander
some time ago and uh now you know our
our submarines are huge think of the
Empire State Building sideways and
underwater these are massive massive
boats all you see when most people see a
submarine they just see the conning
Tower the sail sticking out of the water
these things are massive in some cases
these can be 500 600 feet in size
enormous enormous boats
underwater um and I was talking to one
of these commanders and I asked the
commander I said um you know what what
strange things do you see he says look I
got to tell you we see things that are
sometimes doing 400 even maybe 500 knots
underwater and they're bigger than our
submarine now think about that for a
minute they're bigger than our submarine
and so when I when I asked him and I I
mean it's it's just an honest question
because I what do you do so I asked him
when that happens what's your reaction
what do you do and man dead serious
without skipping a beat is kind of funny
now looking back but but you know it's
not he said Lou we go
around wow I get it yeah yeah yeah I
would too right
sure uh it's it's a problem and and we
you know our underwater equities are
very sensitive um so I have to it's
unlike you know going back to a historic
report the 60s or the 70s about an ICBM
yes that's also very sensitive but
that's also five decades ago right you
know the issue that when it gets really
sensitive and we're talking about issues
now and this is why when you see new UFO
reports and new UFO video that gets
leaked from somebody in the military the
government takes that very seriously
because we have a lot of modern equities
we're doing a lot of things that we
don't necessarily want to broadcast to
our adversaries and so that that raises
alarm Bells internally within the
government um so for that reason
anything that we're talking about that
that may involve our our current
capabilities I have to be very careful I
I can't really go into details with that
but you're right we have seen uh
empirical evidence that suggest these
things can interfere with and take
offline uh some of our nuclear
capabilities an entire flight in some
case a flight is kind of like a think of
a Christmas string of Christmas tree
lights where each Christmas tree light
is a is an ICBM Silo um and they're all
connected to to a main Hub and in some
cases these UAP have been able to bring
offline our our Nuclear Strike
capability which is by the way part of
our nuclear deterrence right and if that
is not scary enough because some people
will say oh well you know maybe they're
trying to demonstrate that we shouldn't
use nuclear weapons in Russia it's the
opposite in Russia they actually
demonstrate an ability to turn them on
right so that's even more concerning and
I think um it highlights that you know
there there is a national security issue
there there is a vulnerability now maybe
maybe it's a good vulnerability I don't
know maybe philosophically or morally
that's a good thing but I think from a
defense perspective you know we we've
got to figure these things out we have
we have an obligation to try to figure
it out are you aware if any if there are
any recent cases of the Minuteman 3
being tampered with by UAP I wouldn't be
able to discuss that unfortunately um I
I I it took a year just to be able to
discuss what I can discuss now in the
and even then they redacted it um so I'm
going to do a polite pass on that you
know the one thing I've always
emphasized Matt as as you know and
others I will not violate my security
oath I never have I never will and if
I'm forced to make a decision if I'm
ever forced to make a decision between
National Security and disclosure I will
always choose National Security I am a
patriot I do believe I love my country I
love my government I love the citizens
um fortunately I haven't had to make
that decision yet but I do walk a fine
line because I have an active security
clearance because I still from time to
time May consult with the US government
I don't I don't want to jeopardize that
and more importantly I also don't
believe in like some folks have compared
me to to folks like Snowden um I'm I'm
not a Snowden I I've never leaked
information I will never leak
information uh there's a right way and a
wrong way to do things and I prefer to
do them the right way um it might be a
little bit more effort might take a
little more time but in the end I think
it's more productive you know I don't
believe in just taking the truth that I
may know that may be super classified
and giving it to the Russians or giving
it to the newspaper or anything like
that um I don't think that's
constructive and I don't think we have
to do that I think we can continue doing
it the way we're doing now trying to get
permission chipping away little by
little getting the government to acques
and look they've acquiesced a lot in the
last seven years they released videos
and then they released more videos and
now they have an error organization
they're reporting to Congress they have
reports to unclassified reports to the
American people um you know may they may
not be doing as much as we'd like to see
right now but it's the machine is
starting to to to move the gears and the
cogs are beginning to turn the cobwebs
are now now coming off the gears um and
we're we're now finally having the
conversation that we've been needing to
have for the last 70 years so again I
know a long-winded way to talk about you
know you ask me about any new nuclear
weapons being brought offline but it's
important for me to to communicate to
your audience if I'm vag on something
it's not because I'm trying to be vague
or mysterious it's simply that there are
some lines in the sand that I have to be
cognizant of in order to make sure that
I don't do anything that compromises
National Security or inadvertently tips
our our our our hand to to to an
adversary gaining some sort of insight
totally totally understand now in a
recent interview on theories of
everything with Kurt jongle I'm a huge
fan of that show uh Kurt asked uh does
the government believe that they have
been around them being nhi for longer
than centuries and your reply was quote
the government has already said it
officially what they are where they're
from and their attention intentions that
has not come out out yet was what you
said that tells me that the government
knows precisely what they are and
precisely where they are from can you
elaborate on that it's possible but I in
in complete honesty I I can't verify
that's true um I I I was not privy to
that if there was ever a conversation
that occurred at those levels I was not
privy to those conversation now that
doesn't mean just because I wasn't privy
to that that's not the case you could be
absolutely correct but I'm only
conveying to you from my perspective I
was never privy to that um there's been
a lot of supposition in Inu windows and
speculation of what what some people
might know uh but I was never told
definitively that yes these things are
from XYZ and this is what they want and
this is how long they've been here this
is their interaction with us I have not
been privy to that conversation that
doesn't mean that it never took place it
just simply means that I was never in
the room when that happened so so for
instance if you're not would you are you
or are you not aware of for instance
let's say like how many different
species or factions are already
here uh no I'm aware of conversations
that people have said that someone knows
something but no uh and keep in mind my
time when I was at HP was really more
than nuts and bolts you know I was
focusing on on some sort of advanced
technology that was flying unimpeded
into our controlled us airspace over our
sens of military installations that was
being witnessed by trained observers in
some case Top Gun Pilots that was being
recorded on done camera footage on Fleer
pod footage that was being backed up by
radar data um that was my focus you know
I I think it's important let me
emphasize here I went to school to be a
scientist I studied microbiology and
Immunology and parasitology not
parasitology but the study of parasites
so I've always been a disciple of the
scientific principles and the scientific
methods um always and then later on when
I became a special agent in Counter
Intelligence and conducting
investigations I've always considered
myself just a fax meam kind of guy
meaning data oriented data focused let
the data speak for itself and so it was
the same thing kind of in in a tip um I
really wasn't interested in anything of
historical uh maybe stories and things
like that my folk because you go to a
general you say Hey general here's a
report from 1965 they kind of go yeah
but brother it's
2016 why are you showing me this I need
to know now what's going on so that was
our Focus we at least mine I was looking
at the here and now um you know these
things that were coming in and being uh
experienced by our pilots in some cases
Pro being a airflight safety issue
coming so close that they would actually
split a combat formation right down the
middle um ship captains that were that
were desperate for some sort of answer
because in the words of one of them that
these things are all over the ship they
can't keep people below deck forever
right um trying to keep them from seeing
these things sure uh came to the point
where it's like the worst kept secret in
the government and so my focus was
really trying to find an immediate
solution to the here and now so some of
the historical stories that that people
often kind of talk about I really didn't
spend a whole lot of time and attention
on that to be honest with you I was more
focused on the current and present
situation got it now in your book you
also refer to people being injured by
UAP have people been hurt or killed in
the recovery of crashed
uaps yes um we know that there's already
several individuals right now that are
in full medical disability from the US
government in writing because of a uh
involvement with a UAP incident um you
know it's not that I got to be careful
because a hip P conf conf patient
confidentiality is not really my story
to tell some of these people have
already come out publicly um I have seen
the paperwork they are absolutely
correct it is true it is valid uh then
we had doctors uh that were working with
us that were looking at uh military
personnel and intelligence officials who
were also uh who had claimed to come up
close and personal to UAP and sustain
injury um either superficially um or
even internally uh what appears to be
perhaps some sort of directed energy uh
type type technology uh now let me
preface I am I am not a medical doctor
uh and so I I am certainly not qualified
to tell you the specific morphologies of
some of these injuries and and ascertain
you know exactly the frequency and and
what happen happened U but what I can
tell you definitively is that the US
government has been looking into this
topic and takes that very very seriously
but in terms of men and women in uniform
or working for any three-letter agency
uh working for our government as part of
a uh uh we'll just say program or or
whatever regarding UAP have any of those
members been killed in the line of duty
with uh with that well uh let me let me
be careful here um there are
individuals you know what I I'm gonna
I'm gonna do a polite pass on that um
tot somebody that's far more qualified
uh I I don't want to overstep my bounds
so I'm going to do a polite pass on that
understood what is the level of
technological sophistication in terms of
UAP do do we still lack understanding of
key features and to what extent have we
been able to reproduce that
functionality with with things that we
may have
yeah I've I've been given a clear line
of the sand uh I I cannot discuss that
what type of Technology you may able to
glean or exploit if at all I would not
be able to confirm or deny that um and
uh I I for obvious reasons so
unfortunately I'm GNA have to polite
pass that as well forgive me I I know
it's probably frustrating to you no not
at all but I I I cannot I cannot have
that conversation yeah no of course and
and you know obviously I have to ask
these questions and I completely
understand if it's a p
uh so some of these I'm certain you're
not going to be able to ask but I want
to want to ask them was assap or a tip
involved in Crash retrieval or reverse
engineering saps or caps uh in any way
shape or form or the Legacy program uh I
I I'm not going to go into anything
regarding um crash retrievals other than
what's in my book I've been given
clearance to talk about that uh I I
cannot speculate one way or the other or
confirm or deny when it comes to crash
retrievals and exploit again this kind
of goes back to the question you just
asked me before please forgive me um but
there's a very specific reason why I
cannot discuss that and maybe at some
point in the future I'll be able to but
right now I I cannot have you uh in in
terms of your work during in in the line
of in your government work have you ever
witnessed or touched a craft or been
inside a craft during your time at oap
or ATP I I have I have touched material
exotic material let me say very
specifically exotic material that um at
the time we had it could not be
replicated um and was analyzed by some
very renowned
institutions and they came up with the
conclusion that this is material they
don't understand why it was made they
don't understand how it was made and
they conclusively said it was absolutely
engineered and there are very unique
properties associated with that material
um that still remains in some cases a
bit of a
mystery understood um have you ever
viewed in person or photos or video of
biological entities of non-human
origin um not of actual biological
entities um biological samples that have
been removed from another human being
um I have seen that several times um one
of those is in my book that I discuss a
little bit U but there was others as
well that I was privy to um
unfortunately I cannot discuss those
because I have not I don't have
permission to talk about those other
incidents can you say as part of your
official work have you ever personally
viewed a craft a nonhuman origin in any
type of
facility I would not be able to answer
that question for you unfortunately
understood not have permission to to
address that question to totally
understood understandable now there have
been some significant rumors of events
regarding UAP that may occur within you
know like 10 years or so I don't know if
it's something coming or a natural
disaster you hear of something big
coming down the pike have you heard of
these claims and if so do you have any
idea what it may
be yes I've heard of them yes I'm aware
of them and I'm not able to have that
conversation got it um there's there's
uh it's it's not my conversation to have
but I I am aware of it in terms of
Congress uh really being aware of it you
know we know of course we have allies
such as Senator jbrand Senator Schumer
Rubio and others but there seems to be a
a certain level of of I don't know if
it's willful ignorance on congress's
part I understand that the security
classification guide for UAP is
classified at the secret level with
which members of Congress would have
access to my question to you is if
anyone in Congress were to request to
view the security classification guide
and and the intelligence product that is
classified at the secret level would it
answer the questions they may have in
terms of whether this is really going on
would they get to see censor data things
of that nature so let let me let me um
reiterate the profoundness
of the question you're asking me on one
hand the government is saying parts of
the government is saying nothing to see
here on the other hand there is a
written security classification guide
covering
uaps catch my drift absolutely you don't
have a secur classification guide unless
something is real doesn't doesn't work
that way you only have a security class
guide if something is real right you
don't classify fake stuff imaginary
stuff you only make a classification
determination if you have a real program
and you have real technology and real
things you're trying to protect so think
about that should Congress have access
to a security class guide absolutely
does one exist they've already said it
does so you know uh there're in lies one
of the obvious questions why hasn't
anybody said hey wait a minute you're
saying there's nothing to see here and
you have a class God on UAP what I mean
what are you talking about but in terms
of a member of Congress if were to to
you know tell their Chief of Staff you
know what I want to see this uh this
class guide because you have need to
know so right so not just because you
have a secret clearance doesn't mean you
have access to everything secret right
okay there's there's this requirement
with they called need to know now if
it's in your job jar let's say you're
part of an oversight committee for let's
say Federal Aviation and safety or maybe
you're part of a committee for the
defense oversight or you are part of a
committee for the you know uh armed
services committee or the uh the
permanent Select Committee intelligence
then yeah you should have a you need to
know and you should be able to see that
class guide for yourself and read it
yourself um I think it's a great
suggestion I think right now we should
ask Congress hey if you are in a need to
know why don't you take a look at that
that class guide review it see what you
see what you think so so it definitely
would be beneficial to anyone that would
look at it in uh in terms of in the
legislative absolutely cool heck yeah
and by the way there's stuff in there
that says it's unclass ified or whatever
the sections are that should be made
public to American people say these are
the things we can't talk about right
regarding if it's unclassified you got
stuff that's classified okay fine we're
not going to tell the American people
but the stuff that's
unclassified provide I would say release
that part of the security class guide
that is unclassified in itself so we all
know what people can talk about exactly
it's it's it's Prett it's pretty insane
so as I mentioned the we you know we
have this UAP unidentified nom
disclosure act unidentified anomalous
phenomenon disclosure Act of 2024 and as
I've mentioned in the past couple of
shows it is not looking good and that is
why I'm encouraging all of the viewers
at home to pick up the phone call their
lawmakers if this legislation does not
pass how far will it set set us
back
well I don't know if it'll set us back
but it'll it'll stall the plane okay I'm
not sure go backwards but we won't go
forward and that's problematic you know
I think forward momentum is is critical
especially now we've got a lot of things
aligning to I think really help this
conversation and finally get the
disclosure that people are looking for
um I understand that there are some
contention within some of the language
um I do not believe throwing the baby
out with a bath water if there's a part
in that legislation that rubs somebody
the wrong way then fine address it but
don't kill the entire legislation which
is fantastic we need this legislation
this is how people are going to come out
and be protected and have the
conversation you know if there's a piece
of the legislation you know a sentence
or two you don't like or a word fine but
you're going to kill the entire thing
and all this work that went behind it to
finally get disclosure just because PC
you don't like yeah that's like saying
you know what uh I'm I'm gonna throw my
car away because I happen not to like
the antenna U color of the antenna
that's on the car so you know what I'm
just going to take the whole car to the
junkyard they replace the antenna I mean
okay fine but right doesn't make
sense yeah 100% I'm in agreement with
that it's to to throw it out throw the
baby out with a bath water is just it it
just def defies logic what it says to me
is that that's not the real reason and
in particular I'm speaking about the
imminent domain language that's not the
real reason these folks are are opposing
it I think it's probably a red herring
but I would definitely support removing
it as part of um as part of
reconciliation if that is the one thing
that's holding it back I understand why
it needs to be there is right because if
that's removed and there's still
resistance then you know then you You'
totally know okay now you're on the
board of directors for the UAP
disclosure fund how do you see the
foundation's role in terms of moving the
ball forward and with
disclosure well I I think it's it's
vital um I think it's it's it's a way to
Advocate to allow people to know that if
you support disclosure for the UAP topic
that you will have support you will have
support in in various different ways now
let me be clear here as a member of the
board on the UAP disclosure fund I don't
see a penny I don't get paid anything so
I put a lot of work into it uh
voluntarily but I don't get anything out
of it but what we do get out of it are
other people to potentially be protected
uh who want to come out and whether
you're a whistleblower or you need a a
legal legal service done to protect you
from retribution um that's worth it to
me that's worth it because that there
are people out there that saw what
happened to Dave brou they saw what the
people Tred what what the Pentagon tried
to do to me and they're scared they
they're scared they do not want to come
forward because they are afraid of what
happened to us and will probably happen
to them and that there'll be some sort
of knee-jerk reaction by someone in the
government to try to discredit them try
to put out BS stories or try to leak
their medical records like they did with
poor Dave grou you know um and it's it's
nasty business and these guys have
families these gals have families
they're paying their mortgage they don't
want that type of attention you know and
so if you want them to come out and have
the conversation with Congress and
American people you got to protect them
yeah and so that's why UAP um DF the
program that that we're part of is so
important um you know the disclosure
fund is exactly that a fund to to
support disclosure doesn't support Lou
Alando I don't get I don't get I don't
get to see any of in fact I'm prohibited
from even receiving services from it so
the very services that we're out there
trying to help and promote for other
people I don't get to use because it's a
conflict of interest so this is purely a
voluntary function that I'm I'm doing um
I think it's important enough where I'm
willing to invest my time and my
attention even though I don't have very
much time left going on anymore um it's
important to me um because ultimately
this is how we're going to reach that
critical mass of individuals and then
Congress can finally do what they need
to do and and I think one of the things
you know talking about retaliation just
the fact that and I hope members of
Congress are watching this that there is
a clear history of the inspector
General's at least on the dod side
leaking
information to the public regarding
ongoing cases so the organization that
is is supposed to be protecting our men
and women in uniform in the background
uh on the on the slot why they are
leaking information regarding those
individuals cases which uh has to break
multiple Federal statues stat had nearly
a three-hour conversation with one of
the senior guys at dodig and they
promised me and assured me that this
conversation we're having is completely
privileged and private it's just between
us we want to get to the facts and it'll
never see the light of day because
there's a lot of private information in
there and organizations and stuff that
you've done and stuff like that it's
your you know your background and and
units and whatnot so I had that
conversation with an attorney there by
the way present and what happened a
little more than a year or two later
they actually provided the entire
conversation transcript out into the
open now actually for me I was happy
about that because people could actually
see I did talk to the dodig and
everything I've been telling people has
been completely above board and it's
exactly as I've been communicating it
but that also to your point sends a very
clear signal to anybody else who wants
to be a whistleblower and that wants to
have a private or privileged
communication guess what it ain't going
to be private and it ain't going to be
privileged now had I have done that
while I was in DOD and I had someone
sign paperwork and said this is Privacy
Act of 1974 information it won't be
shared publicly blah blah blah and I
broke that the dod IG would be all over
my ass and I would be in trouble and yet
the dod IG itself is guilty of the very
same thing that they're responsible for
enforcing to the secretary defense so it
is it is Beyond at this point um I think
anybody's doubt that there is a clear
agenda here to tell people don't report
this stuff yeah and if you don't report
it then we don't have to worry about it
right no nothing to see here folks yeah
yeah that sounds about right they're
doing the same thing with Havana
syndrome as as well it's uh it it
absolutely enrages me that the people
that have given everything put country
put put country before self and made
these sacri Rices the uh Department of
Defense uh the intelligence Community uh
continues uh to throw them under the bus
there is nothing more unamerican than
that that's because they they believe at
this point that the American public are
sheeple um and that you know we will
just continue to tow the line and B all
the way to the slaughter and we don't
really care about you know sticking up
for our rights and that our individual
rights and freedoms don't really matter
you know and these people in government
forget that this is the government for
the people and by the people these
people in government forget that they
are Servants of the people not the other
way around and I got to tell you that's
a dangerous mindset to have you know
when you start doing you start making
decisions on behalf of the American
people that's not in the Public's best
interest and you are doing things
unilaterally making decisions
unilaterally hey you know what those are
dangerous times AB absolutely now we
only have oh sorry to cut you off yeah
so we only have you till the top of the
air so I want to get to uh some audience
questions uh I've spoken on this program
before about how at least in terms of
materials everything uh related to UAP
is classified within the department of
energy under the 1954 atomic energy act
and I believe it's classified as special
nuclear material uh Bill H asks how is
the government able to hide UFO
information under the nuclear energy
controls in the department of energy it
seems like that is a misuse of that
classification Authority well
technically anything that reaches a
certain level of radiation emanations is
protected by that and now follows under
the authority of the Department of
energy um those rules were created early
on during the atomic age and when we
started transitioning from the atomic to
the nuclear age they were designed in
order to protect certain trade secrets
from getting in the hands of adversaries
the problem is it's been interpreted in
a way now to also potentially obfuscate
the the UAP topic and hide information
under there I I've never said this
publicly there's a guy um who I know
who's now he's dead uh he was a very
senior person he was a special agent in
the department of energy he reached out
to me early on I've been I was talking
to him before he died uh wonderful wife
uh I won't say where they live because I
don't want
to you know put a Target on on on his
family but uh he was also in the IG and
the Inspector General and he was ready
to go full open kimono he told me he's
like man I want to come out I want to
tell everybody what I know uh they have
ruined my career and this is a guy that
if you look up who he is you will know
exactly who he is and uh he died during
covid um of apparently covid this is a
guy who was actually healthy his his
wife was a was a a medical doctor right
so go figure that um he was healthy and
uh the next day he was dead in his chair
uh found him dead at his home
so and and it is true I hopefully I've
been correct when I've been stating this
if you violate uh anything of the atomic
energy act we'll just say let's say you
you decide to leak uh the design for a
nuclear warhead that would fall uh under
um under the same uh the same fate as
the rosenbergs in terms of being ussb
aactive 1903 as well and there SE
several other ones too um you know it I
think people would be shocked to know
that people say well our wouldn't use
lethal Force to protect it a secret
really go to Area 51 sometime and go up
to the fence and see what that sign says
it says lethal force is authorized in
order to keep you off the property
because of National Security interest so
uh you know that's in black and white I
mean anybody can can see that youth of
use of lethal Force
authorized yeah absolutely okay uh Scott
po question page 45 on emminent what
happened to the deceased bodies of
non-human origin
so they were taken uh to a secure
military installation which is not
uncommon uh because it's so people need
to understand that when the US
government or the Department of Defense
gets involved in something or the Army
um they usually secure things at a
military installation now why is that
well because it's Federal property it
doesn't belong to States and local
authorities they have no Authority on
these Federal lands and so what happens
is you have the army or navy or whoever
else is evolved Air Force they will take
and secure things on a federal
installation because they can control
the security they can lock it down and
then they can decide to do what they
want to do with it so these these bodies
were brought into uh US government
control and then from
there allegedly parsed out and and
studied got it uh question let's see
here uh from JW what Insight do you have
into how to divest private Equity firms
who have Incorporated historical UAP
data into their systems not sure
understand that
one um I think I do uh so you have a
private company in the past uh that
actually is part of the defense
industrial base that has now access to
certain U material crash retrieval
material how do we get them to release
it and admit that they have it uh for
further uh benefit of of of our nation I
think and if that's what he means is
this legislation would be very helpful
for that um it would basically
incentivized hopefully to some degree
for these organizations to release that
information and even be potentially
compensated for it I'm not against that
you know look if these folks are just
about making a profit then fine okay
stroke them a check give me my material
back and we'll you know we'll we'll
start doing what we need to do with it
um you know I I'm not I'm not
necessarily for punishing people if if
if it's look the mob used to say if it's
if it if it cost you $20,000 to get
someone killed or you know whack
somebody or $10,000 to bribe them even
though you don't like them better
business model to bribe them pay the
10,000 bucks you save money um if if we
if it same thing kind of applies here if
if if it's better for us more efficient
for us cheaper for us to just
incentivize these folks to give up the
material I've got no problem doing that
sure jdw Scott thank you for the Super
Chat it's kind of a funny question but
ask Lou what happens when Molton metal
drips out of a UFO during Fire season I
would say the forest probably goes
boom yeah well let's hope it's not in
California or Oregon right um because
you know we know they've got some
they're struggling with some challenges
regarding fire exactly but I think in in
seriousness though there has been some
reports it's been referred to by some as
what they call Angel Hair it's this
molten material uh that is slewed off
from the outside of the vehicle um I
think more recently there is some
speculation and some theories that the
outer skin of The Craft is is likely
ablative in nature or
sacrificial um and there is when when it
is energized so to speak from a
particular energy source within um the
the material on the outside is
sacrificial kind of like think of boat
bottom paint I'm I'm here on the
Chesapeake Bay where they have you a lot
of boats are on the water and you get
Barnacles and kind of this crud that
accumulates on the bottom of the boats
um some paint is designed to be abla
meaning uh there's layers of it um and
as a barnacle grabs onto the bottom of
the boat
uh over time the paint peels off with
the barnacle and so kind of that same
that same principle has been
hypothesized understood uh Philipe Ola
asks uh Lou it's uh been about two years
at least now that whistleblowers are
talking uh to Congress and we don't know
uh anything about a congressional
investigation any thoughts on
that well I think there is um I think
there's a lot of talk about having some
Congressional more Congressional
hearings U both in the house and the
Senate uh remember folks this is a
marathon it's not a Sprint uh and we've
got all of tomorrow to do these um there
is no well we have to do a hearing right
now we're not going to have one if we
don't have a hearing now we'll have one
next month we don't have one next month
we'll have the one month after that and
we'll have one year after that and the
years after that this is this is not a
one-trick Pony um and I think the more
that Congress begins to realize the the
the validity of this topic and the
reality that there's people want to come
out and have the conversation
the more they're going to be encouraged
to say okay you know what hell if we
have to do one of these every every six
months we'll do it yeah no I I think
that's great uh Shelley asks did you get
the hitchhiker event after visiting
Skinwalker Ranch if not can you say what
part of the Paranormal you were studying
thank you for your continued
service thank you great question first
of all let me carry out I don't think
it's paranormal um I think uh you know
today's science was yesterday's magic um
I I think there's a a logical
explanation for that hitchhiker effect
or what what I was told by by Jim laty
as being a sticky
portfolio um I think it's based in
science um I think there's probably a
very logical explanation for it um as it
relates to the UAP phenomenon I don't
know for sure though so what I can tell
you is that here are the facts and at
the end of the day could have been ball
lightning could it be S elma's fire
could it be faulty wiring that's now
ionizing the air and creating a plasma
all those they're absolutely possible
but here's what I do know these were
witnessed by myself and they were
witnessed by my family and in some cases
by our neighbors we began to experience
it as I got involved in the a tip
program and they stopped when I left the
a tip program and oh by the way other
individuals who are part of the atip
program and assap program also
experienced similar events and even more
events in other events different events
while they were associated with these
programs that I can't say definitively
now what these were were they UAP
reconnaissance was it a natural
phenomenon was it an atmospheric
admiration it is possible I cannot say
definitively because I simply don't know
what I do know the facts being that
there were witnessed by many people and
if it was just me I never would have
said anything but it was Witness by my
wife witnessed by the kids like I said a
couple neighbors and other people in the
program were also experiencing very
similar encounters understood uh here's
a question from anomaly files do you
know if any firsthand Witnesses would
testify without going to doser which uh
obviously doser is not needed to testify
uh but have you been asked to testify to
Congress and would
you yes and yes
absolutely have you uh another another
good question have you noticed that
doser has slowed down in terms of their
responsiveness with UAP related uh
Publications I know it took a an
inordinate amount of time it seems for
your apption to uh to receive approval
have you heard of other people that may
be working on similar books they are
encountering these same sort of uh kind
of an uphill clim I can't speak for
anybody else other than myself and I can
tell you that Dave grou is also um been
very frustrated by the process but he
has submitted some quite a few things um
you know I I plan to submit some more
things here very soon because I want to
have a more open conversation better
dialogue with the American people on
this topic
um you know I I will tell you in in in
doster's
defense to me they've actually been
pretty responsive even though took them
a long time they were always
coordinating with me they weren't
blowing me off there was a couple
individuals there that actually I
respect a lot that I I think truly truly
truly are trying to do their job the
best they can and as quickly as possible
I've never sent a request to Doster that
they ignored they've always come back to
me it might take them a little while to
do it they're very busy but they've
always come back to me um so you know I
want to be be careful not to villainize
them because there's a lot of folks in
that organization I think are really
trying to trying to do the right thing
whether it's for UAP you know advocacy
and disclosure or anything else um I'm
not going to say their names because I I
don't want to I don't want to get them
in any kind of trouble but my experience
with doser unlike the public affairs
office completely different scenario
there and the the in-house uh Pentagon
in-house Factory I like to call
it yeah I mean yeah I mean this should
be called The Pentagon propaganda office
at this point yeah um you know that's a
dereliction of Duty in my mind those
those guys all need to be fired and you
know put out um but as far as un
unceremoniously walked out of the
building but dos has been a different
experience for me you know they've got a
tough job and they've got to find out
who all the original classification
authorities are who are all the
information owners and then try to get
approval and try to negotiate that and
you know a lot of times the organization
say that no we will not release it then
doster's got to come back and actually
fight on your behalf and say look
actually you can't say no just because
you don't like the information you know
that's it you can only say no if it's
classified which as you can see in my
book there's still portions in they
didn't want people to see but a lot of
it was released and so I'm I'm I'm
pretty grateful for that uh if if you
have a few more minutes I know we have
you till 11 I've got one or two more
questions uh if you're if you're good uh
this is a really good one from flap
around FP TV ask Lou if everyone in the
know has been bargaining and positioning
themselves to benefit financially in the
future and whether that is hindering the
process oh my gosh I can't speak for
anybody else forgive me my daughter's
dog is over here barking right now so as
you hear that I know I'm on live right
now so forgive your a audience out there
please forgive me for this I I can't
control him he's um he's a feisty little
German Shepherd and gets excited
sometimes
um look I can't speak for anybody else I
I know certainly from my perspective I'm
not um I went through hell to get to
where we are today my wife and I lived
in a trailer and had to literally dig
our own septic um so if someone's trying
to profit from this shame on you um
because this is not about profiting um
this is about telling the truth um you
know you want to profit go be a banker U
go be a lawyer go do something like that
but don't don't do this um have there
been people though that try to sure
there's people right now if you go out
on social media you'll see there's
people out there you know trying to
charge you $10,000 for a UFO encounter
and then you know later on gets found
throwing flares out of an airplane you
know so yeah yeah there there's a lot of
you know people out there that don't
really have very good Scruples totally
totally understandable uh last question
for you uh so I'm I've been aware of
spec specific things that have happened
uh to people such as yourself and David
which uh is uh just absolutely enraging
uh in intimidation physical uh
intimidation Etc uh harassment uh this
question comes from as as I can't
ashz what organization is
personally Behind these attacks
threatening individuals such as yourself
and and David grush are these security
contractors working for uh for aerospace
companies are these CIA cutouts are
these jck operators who is behind the
kinetic
threats I uh I'm not going to answer
that and it's not because I don't want
to I do but I think that story will be
told um in the
future uh that's not my story to
tell but it's a great question um and
and you're right we have been
intimidated we've had threats we've had
people threatened to do all sorts of
things and in some cases some people
have suffered some some very severe
consequences um but at the risk of you
know exposing something prematurely um I
I want this to go through the right way
maybe through law enforcement channels
um and and maybe Congressional channels
I don't think this would be an
appropriate means to to do that um you
know I don't want to I don't want to
have that conversation publicly until
until the proper authorities are are
involved understood well L thank you so
much well first I should have said this
at the beginning of of the show but I I
can't thank you enough for your service
to this uh to this country uh to
democracy uh to freedom I cannot think
of an
individual uh that has
exemplified country before self and the
sacrifice that you and your family have
gone through the sacrifices that you and
your family continue to go through
especially uh the really uh pretty sick
uh attacks that uh we see a lot of these
folks level at you uh it's it's U it's
it's just tragic but you are an example
if I had kids which I don't I would say
I would want my kid to grow up to be
like Lou alzando who understands what it
means to serve
country well Matt thank you very much
but really A lot of that thanks goes out
to to you and your audience um I do this
because of you I do this because of your
audience I do it because it's the right
thing to do and I know the people in
your audience if in my position would do
the same thing this is a team effort uh
we are all doing this together and we
are only succeeding together um I am not
you know as much as some people may want
to say I'm the face of disclosure I'm
not you know who is it's people like you
and your audience I'm just one person um
it's it's you are the Title Wave you you
you all are the tsunami that is making
the difference you know I may be a
ripple in the water but it's been
magnified a thousandfold because of the
army of individuals that we have um
making this a reality making this cause
something that has now become a national
priority maybe even a global priority so
thank you for that compliment but let me
get you know turn it right back around
and say if you really wantan to if you
really want to know why we're succeeding
you all need to look in the miror
excellent well thank you well Lou this
has been great uh and folks Lou alzando
excellent book eminence
can be found at your favorite book
seller uh Lou best of luck stay safe as
always look forward to seeing you
hopefully sometime soon and uh so uh so
glad so glad you were here this has been
a dream of mine to have you on the show
I very much appreciate that and look
forward to having you back absolutely
anytime and thank you Matt very much and
forgive me like I said for the pup
uh you know it's time to go for a walk
so thank you very much awesome all right
very good Lou Alando ladies and
gentlemen all right well that was just
uh just fantastic um I of course Lou's
time was was limited he's got a million
different uh media engagements that he's
he's uh he's dealing with so of course
we're very very uh thankful that he made
the time to to join us today I know we
were not able to get to uh almost all of
the audience questions there were just
absolutely a a large amount but uh but I
I think really what he had to say wasn't
was important and for all of the folks
in Congress and staffers that are
watching the show I really would invite
you to rewind this show and listen to
what Lou had to say regarding the
inspector General's office if you have
an inspector General uh inspector
General's office either in the dod IG or
the
iig whose purpose is to guard against
government malfeasance and illegal
government
activity when that very
office shows signs of abject
corruption and I cannot think of a
better example of corruption in an
inspector General's
office than a inspector General's office
who is saying to whistleblowers come on
in come talk to us tell us what you you
know but then in the same
breath this same inspector General's
office Inspector General of the
Department of Defense Inspector General
of the intelligence Community turns
around and leaks confidential
information protected whistleblower
information under ppd1 19 presidential
presidential protected
disclosure when when that organization
the Inspector General goes and leaks
that to the
Press members of Congress I cannot think
of a better example of of illegal
activity and an organization that is
doing everything contrary to what the
Constitution of the United State says
than the inspector General's office now
why is the inspector en I say generals
because you have dodig you have ICI why
are they doing that why are the
inspector generals who are receiving
classified
briefings confidential
information it would be like going to uh
going to the FBI or local law
enforcement uh telling them something
that is not supposed to leak and then
they turn around and they leak it so why
are they doing that
the reason that they are doing it is
that they are sending a message to
whistleblowers the message is that if
you come so dodig ICI is saying you know
what oh guys come on in and tell us what
you know we're going to get to the
bottom of this government corruption
that's what they're saying
publicly but what they are really saying
when they go and they the uh inspector
generals
illegally leak information regarding
ongoing cases with government workers
government
officials what they're really doing why
they are doing that is they are sending
a message Lou spoke about that the
message to whistleblowers who are paying
attention to what the inspector generals
are doing the message to them the
subtext they are sending
is that if you go and you file a ppd1 19
with the inspectors generals either I
either IC or
DOD we're going to leak your information
to the
public our conversations that we are
having in confidence probably in a skiff
we're going to leak those to the public
so the message to these whistleblowers
from the inspectors generals is we don't
really want you to come in and tell us a
damn thing
that is what they are up to so for all
of you in Congress our lawmakers the
people that we sent to legislate and
have oversight constitutionally mandated
oversight of the executive
branch you guys have to look into that
because if you have a corrupt a corrupt
justice system within the Pentagon
within the Department of Defense and a
corrupt justice system with within the
intelligence
Community by this I mean the dodig and
the
ICI then there are no guard rails there
are no there are no guard rails for
illegal activity which we know highly
illegal activity has been conducted by
the CIA by the intelligence Community by
the Department of
Defense so that organization the dod IG
ICI that is supposed to protect against
that it's a
farce it's it's a it's a it's a it's a
uh it's a shill it's a it's a uh it's
it's like a Pon not a Ponzi scheme but
you know the thing where they uh uh they
hide the uh the the people that do the
the street bedding thing and hide uh
things under shells that's exactly what
they are
doing we're seeing that as well with
Havana syndrome the CIA has been lying
to
Congress about what they know about
Havana syndrome that happens to be
classified under the 1954 atomic energy
act as
well they are hiding that they are also
messaging to Havana victims do not come
talk to us because if we do you're going
to receive
retaliation how can you have a
functional
democracy when you have such a high
level of corruption when you have
Pentagon leadership that exits private
Aerospace private defense goes into
decisionmaking processes or
decision-making positions elected uh
political appointments in the Pentagon
in the intelligence
community and then when they're done
with their tenure there they go right
back as uh back right back into uh into
the uh defense industry making Oodles of
cash it's a revolving door of
corruption it is corruption that erodes
everything that this country stands
for when you have a group of 50ish or so
Deputy level people senior executive
service level
people in the Pentagon in the CIA in the
department of energy in various
three-letter agencies because part of
how they have kept this whole thing
working is they spread it through
different
nodes and then you they're doing this in
collusion with with private defense
contractors most likely locked Martin
most likely northr Grumman most likely
uh Aerospace Corporation most likely
Boeing and
others that level of
corruption pure
corruption hiding it from Congress lying
about it to Congress lying to the
American people not telling certain
American Presidents certainly not
telling all of you at
home I cannot think of a greater
perversion of democracy than that and
the crazy thing is is that they know
that we all know know this they know
that this ball of yarn is
unwinding it just it it it blows my mind
but really the biggest thing that I
would say to all of you at home
especially all of you on Capitol Hill
that are watching this is to ask
yourself what kind of country do we have
what kind of democracy do we have
what kind of country do we have when the
Pentagon and the CIA and CIA office of
global access joint Special Operations
Command security contractors working for
private Aerospace what kind of democracy
do we have when all of those
entities engage in
retaliation against government
whistleblowers what kind of country do
you have
when the very organizations you worked
for be it the Pentagon the CIA FBI
whatever three-letter agency is what
kind of country do we have when those
individuals either are injured by UAP or
threatened to uh expose uh whistleblow
regarding a program or they do
whistleblow regarding various saps and
caps what kind of country do we have
when those organizations
retaliate against our men and women that
have worn the
uniform what kind of country do we live
in when members of the state department
and other three-letter agencies while on
duty assignment overseas were attacked
by uh by Havana syndrome and have
incurred physical damage to their
body but if they refuse to go tell the
CIA about
it then they're not
covered because they know if they go and
whistleblower go if they go and
whistleblow they are going to receive
retaliation at the end of the day you
have to ask yourself all of you in
Congress is this what our country is
supposed to
be is this an executive
branch that is running
Rogue completely flying in the face of
congressional oversight they do not want
any of you in Congress to be looking
into this they want this to go
away they do not want you to ask
questions but you have to stop and
you're a ask yourself all of you that we
have sent on Capitol Hill to legislate
on our behalf what is is going on with
our country what is going on when the
Pentagon the Department of Defense the
intelligence
Community retaliate against government
whistleblowers what kind of country are
we living in when the inspector generals
leak classified PR privileged
information regarding whistleblower
cases to the
Press it's disgusting it flies in the
face of our
Constitution and you cannot have a
democracy when you've got this group of
of this level of corruption going on and
deciding for all of
us which is not their place deciding for
all of us whether we get to know our
true place in the
universe and if anyone speaks out
against them anybody that is uh has
dealt with the UAP topic as part of
their professional portfolio in the
United States government when they
receive retaliation when they receive
death threats when they are are harassed
by drones flying outside of their
homes members of Congress it is time to
put an end to this enough is
enough we sent you to Capital Hill
to represent all Americans regardless of
political
party it is time to step up take back
your power take back your
constitutionally mandated power of
oversight of the executive branch
because I can tell you doesn't matter if
it's democrat or republican that is in
the executive
branch what is going on there is is
illegal it's wrong and it's
unamerican and only you on Capitol Hill
can step up and and do your job and
finally put an end to
this what's going to happen is the
Pentagon is going to tell you they
haven't found anything uh arrow is going
to tell you uh We've investigated all of
these cases there's really nothing to
see
here why are they telling you all of
this
because they want you to stop looking
they want you to stop digging people are
afraid of going to federal prison that
is why they are lying to you in Congress
full
stop so when they tell you these things
when you see the inspector General's
leak classified or or privileged
information regarding ongoing
whistleblower cases when you hear of the
Pentagon and defense contractors engaged
in uh physical threats of physical
violence against whistleblowers you need
to stop and say to yourself am I going
to just kick this can down the road like
my predecessors in Congress did or am I
going to stand up for the Constitution
and do what is right for this country
because I as a legislator want to leave
this leave this country in a better
place for my children than where it's at
now that's what it's about it's about
truth it's about being true to the
Constitution and it is about what is
what is
right because this cannot continue to go
on all of you watching at home I
encourage you to tomorrow morning Monday
tomorrow morning call your
legislators call your congressmen your
congresswomen your Senators call the
sponsors of the UAP disclosure act the
Senators that are the sponsors of the
UAP disclosure Act and demand demand
that this legislation
pass in closing I have a message to
Travis Taylor to Brandon
Fugal
the this UAP disclosure act I understand
that you have an issue with the eminent
domain
language I personally have concerns
about the eminent domain language I'm a
capitalist
but to throw this legislation out to
Lobby against this legislation
purely over the imminent domain
Clause you're damaging National Security
by doing it and what I what I mean by
that is this legislation is the best
hope we have for getting this out in the
open the eminent domain language as you
well know Travis Taylor Brandon Fugal
anyone else that is opposing this as you
well
know that can be negotiated away during
reconciliation with the
house so for Travis Taylor to say that
uh uh disclosure is going down the tubes
if this uh UAP disclosure act uh is
approved is absolute
 it is
 if if you have a problem with
the imminent domain language fine I
understand I'm with you on some of
that but legisl Lobby for this
legislation to get through the Senate
let's get it through the
Senate and then when it gets to the
house then let's
negotiate during the reconciliation
process if if you have not changed your
mind on imminent domain or if there has
not been a modification of the emminent
domain language within the
bill okay fine then then uh you know do
what you're going to do but I would just
say let's let's let's let's get this
thing at least to the house and then
let's negotiate during
reconciliation about the imminent domain
language Travis Taylor Brandon fugle uh
J Stratton I don't know if where you are
on this but let let's not Lobby against
it let's get it to the house have an
honest
negotiation personally I feel that if
the imminent domain language cannot uh
is going to kill the bill in the end
once it gets to reconciliation in the
house then my personal view is that it
should go
away you cannot throw the baby out with
the bath water you cannot let Perfection
be the enemy of good or whatever that
saying is
so um folks call your
lawmakers let them know that this has
got to
pass all of us that want disclosure
doesn't matter where you are on where
you are on emminent domain let's get the
legislation through so we can discuss
the eminent domain thing and negotiate
the eminent do domain language during
reconciliation in the
house throwing this legislation out
purely because you have an issue with
one tiny part one tiny part out of 63
Pages it's
unacceptable and all of you know damn
well that if this legislation gets set
back it hurts the whole
effort so enough of my rant uh anyway uh
so tomorrow we have Dr Gary Nolan who
will be on our show uh we did pre-record
the interview he had some really
interesting uh eye-opening things and
opinions uh regarding uh regarding
disclosure regarding where we at are
where we are at on disclosure uh he had
some Choice words I'll have to say uh
that I haven't heard uh regarding do
Sean Kirkpatrick the former director of
Arrow uh Arrow I always refer to as a
pentagon's in-house Factory
because that's exactly what it is it's a
giant fly paper operation and I would
say to any potential whistleblower the
last thing you want to do well I would
just say this you you would probably
want to get a colonoscopy over going and
uh testifying to Arrow because I
guarantee you arrow is going to throw
you under the bus and do uh uh probably
much of the same sort of retaliation
that the inspector generals are are uh
have been engaged with so don't uh don't
go to Arrow but anyway it's a really
great show with with Dr Nolan and uh and
I I would say that in this interview
which I know all of you going to enjoy
how he explains the importance of the
the UAP disclosure Act of
2024 uh he he just so eloquently puts
puts it and explains it to the audience
as to why it must pass it must pass
period the end uh later today on X I
will post the link to the show anyway I
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American people about our place in the
universe
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