YouTube Channel: "Disclosure Team" Video Title: "Lue Elizondo 'Artificial Intelligence Presentation' #ufo #uap" Lue Elizondo 'Artificial Intelligence Presentation' #ufo #uap 9,679 views Streamed live on Oct 13, 2021 Lue is back to show us a demonstration of the AI software due to be released in the future that analises UFO footage. Lue Elizondo is a former U.S. Army Counterintelligence Special Agent and former employee of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. His was the director of The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. From: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mSbULDkgEE Transcript: [Music] my [Music] hey everybody how's it going thank you so much for joining me i am just checking a couple of settings because i've had a little bit of a technical issue with my internet stream tonight but everything's looking good um let's not waste any more time let's bring in your friend and my friend mr lua elizondo hey vinnie how are you i'm good lou how are you man i'm doing quite well uh apologies for keeping you all up so late uh i'm so good colorado springs this week uh doing some work and unfortunately my my time schedule is extremely compressed and it is not mine so uh sincere and humble apologies to to you and and uh your wonderful audience but uh great to see you again hey it's so good that you could take the time out and come back and i think we fixed the technical issues that we had last time as far as sharing screens and all that stuff thank you i've never been very technically proficient so i i well thanks to me you just we just spent the last 10 minutes i just sat here and watched you work away and do it so no thank you so much man um thank you to everybody in the live chat here right now i really appreciate you all being here um i have i'm just gonna state i have turned off super chat because this is a presentation by lou this isn't like a massive ama ask anything and all that so just wanted to put that out there um so yeah here we are lou how's colorado treating you man uh today's beautiful uh i had a hell of a drive coming in uh yesterday uh through they had shut down the highway so i was coming down highway 25 and fortunately i have a my truck is you know jacked up a little bit so i have the driving driving what is it uh it's a uh it's a uh a ram uh with uh four wheel drive with uh with with dodge cummins uh motor um so most people know me gear head so yeah she's a bit of a beast uh you know definitely go anywhere anytime type vehicle a bit of a zombie apocalypse type truck and you know she actually uh normally she's a parking lot princess but uh but yesterday she was a workhorse she uh she did be good appreciate it man that sounds awesome man so um listen we know why we're here i think everybody's really eager because we we've we've touched upon this ai that has been mentioned for quite some time now yeah well i was going to initially talk to you about the ai and i'm going to but but i think you know what since i put you guys off for about a week or two on this and it wasn't intentional but you know let me give you let me give you the full presentation if that's okay and i'm going to go a little faster than i normally do this is a presentation that has been provided to some some some fairly senior people uh and i think hopefully it'll kind of give a broad perspective of of you know what are we doing how are we doing it you know what have where have we gone where are we now and where are we going yeah so i'm going to go ahead and share if you don't mind i'm just going to share the screen now screen uh forgive me folks if i uh do something wrong here can you i can see it man we're ready to roll right here we go now first of all folks i know people are going to go ahead and pick apart this thing um but uh just know that this is for really the purpose of this briefing is to to elicit conversation just get people talking and understanding the methodologies and kind of take away the mystery of of how we've been doing things so there's really i've talked about the five pillars of uap engagement and very much like this picture here um you know when you're when you're building these pillars you really want to be consistent and build them roughly at the same rate and the same time because if one pillar gets higher than another then you wind up having a crooked roof so we really have have been very um diligent in making sure that these these five pillars all rise collectively together and by the way there may be other pillars as we as we move into the future so i have this slide up here um just to provoke conversation um what i usually tell folks is uh let me see if i can hide this give me one second does that work nope i'm sorry guys let's try that again that's so good just don't show your calendar yeah so you know the question always everybody asks right you know what is disclosure and i think uh it's important in order for us to have a conversation we really all need to come to agreement of what it means now this is a definition um and uh that that i was able to find the action of making new or secret information known um you know pretty pretty simple actually um not not too complicated and we'll get back to that question so the pillar one is the first pillar of engagement is legislative engagement here in our country we have three branches of government um there is the legislative branch the executive branch and then there is the judicial branch we chose alleged legislative branch for a reason because these are the folks that set the laws of the land and they're also the ones that that fund the government they're the ones who who set the budgets so it's important that as we ensure we speak about this topic that we engage our lawmakers now let me just preface we're not um we're not lobbying people say oh you're lobbying you're lobbyists no we're not we're not asking for a cent not one red penny what we're doing is just making sure that congress members of congress are informed so you see here some of the advantages why we do what we do ensuring lawmakers in the u.s are providing relevant accurate uap information by qualified experts what's a qualified expert now this is not intended to to hurt anybody's feelings but in government terms it's people who hold a security clearance who have a very specific job um and and and they are a qualified expert in their field so whether it's missile telemetry or radar exploitation or you know fill in the blank um that is a qualified expert it's not hobbyist it's not a ufologist it's it's it's really a someone who has been is getting paid by the us government to do a very specific job i know some people are going to argue that and say well but that's not really a qualified expert well but it isn't government terms i'm not saying it is from from a universal perspective simply from a from a governmental perspective um and so we make sure that those briefings uh you know we facilitate those briefings so they can occur we also it also it facilitates educated decisions to properly fund uap efforts within the us government and so you see here annual budget cycles mip and nip stand for military intelligence program and nip stands for national intelligence program making sure that congress knows uh that if you want to help out that's where you put some of the money so now you can get the intelligence community engaged to start actually looking at this pro pro this this this effort if you will this this this problem collectively it also allows for better oversight and decreases excessive excessive secrecy so congress says you know what i want a 180-day report so they get 188 report they said hey that's great but now i want a 90-day report and oh by the way i want i want to report from the secretary of defense every year right so it becomes a snowball effect and you see here the the senate select committee on intelligence and the senate armed services committee it also permits dialogue between constituents and elected officials so now when a constituent calls and said says to their elected official have you been briefed they can say yes and you know what you're right this is an important topic for us and it's an important topic for our district or or our state it also promotes media acceptance because now the media feels enjoying to actually ask the question that they never wanted to ask before and that is asking our members of congress what do you think about ufos right and then of course it enables international dialogue with other governments specifically through their legislative processes so their congresses their parliaments committees et cetera so uh these are just some of the the reasons why pillar one is so important yeah sorry i'm just going to say that last point on pillar one with um other governments i mean it does every time every time that stands out i think about the uk though how we still seem to be falling behind well you know i i i get it uh you know i we have to have patience though we we have to you you can lead a horse to water right but you can't make a drink absolutely so we have to you know just continue be persistent uh and be be fair-minded and rational about this topic i think you know i think uh i think ultimately logic will prevail the next pillar is executive level engagement and this is ensuring this helps ensure that the bureaucracy who is designed to execute the will of congress can do so and they understand what the what those wants of congress are and then basically provide deliverables it also allows for the defense and the intelligence communities to prioritize uap data collection now by the way as you see it's no longer just going to be defense and intelligence communities we're beginning to open the aperture but that's that's where we've been focusing on for the last three and a half years and as you see as a result of that you have a deputy secretary of defense memo creating a strategic plan literally on the heels of the 180-day report but it also enables intra and inter government efforts to be coordinated so it's not just across federal agencies but it's also up and down and it also includes organizations not typically maybe included in the uap conversation like department of energy like nasa potentially like faa um so dhs dhs noah excellent you're right you must have read these slides already it also encourages resources and time investment uh because now they know that the will of congress is such and therefore uh you know the the the executive department could say okay we're going to take this seriously it also helps eliminate stove pipes of previous uap efforts so for example like the uap task force an atip my program and even asap to some degree uh really suffered from stovepipes you had this office i was squirrel away under a directorate that was squirreled away under an undersecretary that was squirrel away under a department under squirrel right and so none of these organizations really shared information uh very well with each other and there wasn't any senior level oversight now it says you see this last poll here ensures proper oversight of uap activities now you have the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense directly now involved in on the line of responsibility for this topic so executive level engagement is important the next is international engagement and this is something near and dear i think to all of our hearts but this helps us synchronize us efforts with other nations japan is an example where about nine months ago they came out and they said we'd like to enter into a bilateral information sharing relationship with the united states regarding ufos uap there's other countries as well but they haven't won they don't want to go public yet so you don't see them in this slide so it also helps establish new opportunities for intelligence information sharing of uap data not necessarily with other countries but international organizations such as nato and the united nations our five-i relationship that we cherish so much with the uk and australia and canada and some of these other countries it also removes individual burdens of a nation and leverages partnerships to share the responsibility right so what i mean by that it's no longer one country having to pay the bill for all of this we can all kind of pool our resources together so norad is an example where you have a u.s commander but you the deputy commander is canadian and so you know when you bring the uap topic to them uh now it's really more of an international approach not just a us or one country approach but also equally important it minimizes one nation's ability to control the narrative we've seen what happens in the last 70 years when we allow one country to control the narrative uh and in essence not a whole lot gets done so uh really this is very important when you have an international uh conversation then you truly have a a collective conversation it's not just one country that's that's managing the the narrative it also encourages joint research and development efforts and increased collaboration which is very important and helps maintain a common operating picture that's kind of a military term if you will uh of of the situation while minimizing this understanding of adversarial provocations now we know that these uaps have interfered with u.s nuclear capabilities and also russian nuclear capabilities what most people may not know maybe some do is that we actually have a communication with russia over the the northern part of uh of the uh uh well of our of our globe our planet and because when you launch nuclear missiles you're gonna not launch them the quickest way to get them to russia and russia to get them to us is over the north pole and so we have this agreement that if if one of us happens to see something unusual over the north pole we can pick up the phone and call the other and say you know hey boris is that you or they can call us and say you know hey joe is that that you guys or is this something else now why is that important because we now know countries like india and pakistan who aren't necessarily friendly to each other they both have nuclear capabilities can you imagine if a ufo were to be encountered potentially over one of their nuclear installations and it gets confused as some sort of provocation of war by the other side i mean that would be horrible so so it is important that we we have this international engagement yeah pillar four is uh mainstream media engagement this is why people see me on mainstream media a lot and despite what people think where i only do you know one type of of media outlet that's not true i've done many many many outlets on both sides but why is this important because it socializes the reality of uap to a much broader audience it also helps destigmatize the topic because now they're they're they're talking about it and they're reporting on it it also further encourages legislative and executive branch involvement because when the mainstream media starts asking them hard questions now they want answers now they're saying you know what we i can't answer that question but i'm going to poke somebody who can and we're going to get back to you with some answers it also provides data to massive information consumer base never before have we been able to take information across the planet so quickly in various different if you will uh media aggregators like associated press or mother jones or comcast where you could do a uh podcast today and it winds up being in a written article tomorrow and then later on in the broadcast the next day and it could be virtually around the planet now with that said there's also some danger with that right because there's an old saying that a lie will travel around the world in the time it takes for the truth to leave the front door so there's it's important that we we be aware of that and only provide valid accurate uh information it also creates positive pressure for scientific and academic communities you now have academia asking folks like dr avi loeb right hey is this topic important right this is super super important it's helpful it gives them an outlet gives them an ability to have the conversation it also increases government transparency as we saw with the new york times story right for for years if not decades we've been saying no no we don't look at ufos oh well surprise we do actually and then of course it provides a platform for new theories um because now people can talk to the media and new theories and some of them um you know may not necessarily follow a line of logic but they're probably worth listening to anyways yeah and then pillar five is public engagement the most important in my opinion um because it enables the public to take part of the uap conversation they see something on the nightly news and now they're talking about talking about it around the water cooler maybe around the dinner table at night this is important this is this is this is it also allows for endorsement for the other four pillars if the people say this is a topic that's important to them the media will cover it and our legislative uh members will will will will begin to to look at this and same with our executive branch so public engagement is is is probably the most important it also bolsters the ability to fund and budget uap studies in both government and the private sector because now people say you know what this is important and i'm willing to actually put some money behind this to for us to try to figure this out one way or another it creates a platform for grassroots enclaves to exist right now you and i having this conversation this is amazing you know this is twitter and social media it facilitates a confederated effort and data crowdsourcing environment now now we've got people have cell phones in their hands and youtube is full of videos that we can all look at and collaborate and talk about um and then of course helps create new political platforms and agendas um disclosure i think being potentially one of them now those are the five pillars what have those what have those five pillars yielded since 2017. of course a lot of people say yeah not much has happened you know in the last three and a half years well okay let's go down that rabbit hole for a minute we have dod admitting the three videos are real they admit that the videos depict unidentified aerial vehicles the department of navy creates a uap reporting policy and guidelines and actual reporting guidelines and policies that get promulgated dod establishes an official uap task force under the deputy secretary of defense directly mainstream media takes notice and begins to actively report on these encounters members of congress receive classified briefings members of congress have taken lead in advocating for greater transparency former directors of national intelligence and cia admit and are talking about uaps potus receives a classified briefing on at least two occasions a president of the united states president a former president united states publicly acknowledges the realities of uaps along with a two foreign two former presidents of the united states publicly acknowledged the reality of uaps congress mandates 180-day report be submitted by the dod and dni one of only 144 incidents in that 180-day report were resolved congress mandates a uap report every 90 days japan requests a bilateral information sharing group with the u.s china introduces the five continents initiative and one of the largest ic collaborative virtual environments is created to analyze uap data now that's just since 2017. i would argue that probably more has been done in the last three and a half years than in the last three decades now by the way when i say that i'm not taking credit for it a lot of people were part of this okay but that's yesterday what about today well here's what's going on today folks senior academics in the us are involved in the serious study of uap phenomenon renowned universities in the u.s are expressing interest in officially studying uaps scientific enclaves are being created to test the physics scholarship programs focusing on uap performance are being developed di well defense intelligence university at dia and the national intelligence university are accepting thesis on uaps that's that's remarkable that you have actually these are these these academic institutions in our national security apparatus now accepting thesis on uaps data from previous u.s projects are being consolidated under a single entity u.s navy is filing patents on potential uap propulsion technology dod is developing a strategic plan to study uaps for years into the future uap information is being integrated into u.s intelligence collection cycle certain allied nations are expressing interest in working with the u.s government the dod ig is conducting an evaluation and several inquiries into dod's handling of the uap topic certain members of congress have expressed desire for public hearings study of uaps are being included into annual budget cycles both mip and nip former senior members of the intelligence community are assisting with u.s government efforts involving uaps office of director of national intelligence office of the secretary of defense navy spacecom norad and other elements of the ic are actively working uap issues and planning for state local and tribal authorities to integrate uap data is underway that is all what's happening right now behind the scenes as we speak so if it wasn't enough the last slide to talk about what's happened in the last three and a half years here's what's going on right now i'm just going to give you a quick uh i just want to give a quick shout out witnesses and gave a super sticker before thank you so much sean i appreciate it thomas fester thank you so much for the super sticker um lu sorry to interrupt you man let's go on to phase phase two yeah so that's all you know that's that and all that is occurring under phase one so so we talked about yesterday we talked a little bit about today but what about tomorrow right so fa you're now going to get information that has not really been publicly shared very at all really it's only been in one other public venue that i'm aware of but this is what we want to do create a multi-disciplined environment what does that mean what does that look like well it looks something like this think of a a national or a federal laboratory and what you now have are each one of these bubbles surrounding it are are contributing members to this federal lab construct where you have the international community right and countries part of that by the way each one of these little bullets are just sub-examples there's many many many many examples each one of these little bubbles could be a whole briefing on its own you have the academic community you have the scientific community and technology community you have the yes even the private sector intelligence community defense community and even the interagencies all working together to try to to understand this phenomenon with their respective um expertise so let's take for example when someone asks well what can the technology community provide us well let's take one sub-tiny bullet within the technology community let's talk about artificial intelligence so here's some basic bullets we know the technology exists today to analyze uap data almost instantaneously and it's anywhere in the world this technology is relatively low cost now relativity is important i'll explain that in a minute this technology continues to improve over time and this technology offers innumerable advantages over to human counterpart so now what i'm about to present to you is a test case okay this is an example of how a.i can be helpful to our discussion yes we are currently working on this it's been a lot of work it's not ready for prime time so i'm going to run through you an example with using a real real real video so this summer we've been waiting for yeah this summer we got a video and by the way this is important to test the veracity and credibility of information just as as it is important to test to see if if a ufo video or picture is real it's also important to be able to disprove it because when you're going to elected officials you have to be able to tell them with confidence 99.9 confidence that this is legit or it's not so we get a video from a uh military officer in uh i won't say exactly where in california and he says look i i saw a black ufo hovering in the distance he took a video uh using regular resolution on a commercially available cellular telephone uh he is a us army officer and i'm going to play it for you real quick now when you see it it's going to be very grainy and you're not going to see very much um and the video itself is actually a little better quality you had to compress it to get it on here but that little black disk back you're looking to say well that doesn't really look like much of anything you know even though that the guy splurged he saw a black disc hovering in the background um so why is that important well because then what we can do is let me show you the still whoa right this that that people said wait a minute that looks like a black hovering disc in the desert you're not you're not lying holy crap so let's see what ai can do for us so you have the ai first look at the background and the ai immediately identifies three environmental anomalies not consistent with a background right so it looks at these objects and says this is not consistent with the background however the image is legitimate the background has not been manipulated and is comparing and contrasting color shape and pixelation okay and then we ask the ai okay what about the object itself now the human eye can't see it but it identifies minor pixelation anomalies that are analyzed to be protrusions some sort of weird thing coming off the side of this this black disk right it also determines that the image is legitimate and it has not been manipulated and it is not an artifact it's a genuine object on screen so then you ask okay so regarding the background what can you tell us well okay so the artificial intelligence comes up and says look there's a 94 percent likelihood that that is the tail of a c-17 aircraft that you're seeing in the middle uh 85 certainty that that is an f-35 lightning that you're looking at and of course they're to the far right are it looks like the tail of two aircraft but it doesn't really know what it is now these pictures are stock pictures um you know ultimately what will happen is we'll have the rights to actually have you know real schematic hopefully government schematic diagrams of aircraft that will be able to compare contrast um and then when you look at the uh the the mechanism in the middle here this this this if you will this this disc it says there is something for sure coming off the the the edges of this of this disc so then you ask the ai okay so in your best guess what are we looking at what it appears to be a black disc is in fact an olive dark olive green us army field tent observation tent and the protrusions coming off the side are guide wires and what this is more than likely is a us army tent that has been set up as observation along an airfield to do flight operations and so that is why it is so important that we invest in these type of capabilities because not only will it allow us to identify when a ufo is real but it will also help us identify when it's not it's equally important that we can do both fair and objectively now limitations of ai you see here to the left near instant analysis of massive volume of information obviously more accurate than human counterparts it doesn't succumb to human fatigue operates 24 hours a day seven days a week operate all classification levels and the more data the more accurate it becomes and is bias neutral but like we all know there are limitations so all ai must be trained there is a massive upfront time investment to train it there's also an initial investment to to build it is expensive it requires human oversight and not all ai cr is created equal right and bad data can perpetuate poor results so if i teach the ai to identify a tent as a disk then it will always identify a tent as a disk and last but not least it lacks human discernment so towards the end here i ask everybody the same question you know the question your kid always wants to know in the back of the car when you're going on a trip are we there yet are we there we do we have disclosure and the answer is i don't know i'll leave that to you so with that said let me go back here and come back to you guys i think it's here right and let me stop sharing my screen all right so um that is a presentation that kind of shows a little bit about the methodology that we've been using um a little bit of a method to our madness the points touch points that we have been focusing on and also the artificial intelligence why it's important because it is equally important to prove and disprove we have to be objective the moment you see that black disc people go whoa that's incredible and then you say well yeah but that's because we want to see it we want to see a disc right we we're sit we're looking at something and we're seeing what we what we want to see and although it's very tempting we really really have to be careful to avoid that temptation um especially if we're going to be continued to be taken seriously we have to be our own worst critics if that makes sense uh absolutely you know i think that's the only reason why we have gotten collectively altogether all of us as far as we have um at least at least at least so far i'll tell you right now that black disc got me initially we got all of them really excited too [Laughter] another shout out sean witnesses in new york uap another 299 super ticket brother thank you so much man you don't have to do that you know i love you anyway man thank you so much um lou if it's okay with you i've got a few questions lined up are you yeah it's five thirty right now my time local time i've got about uh i can probably do ten minutes and then i've got to jam unfortunately it's my my schedule is not mine um i am actually really really working for believe it or not completely understand so i'm going to skip those first few sorry to everybody i'm i'm going to jump into what everybody is probably wanting to talk about which is james uh lakotsky's book that came out yesterday um can you talk about your interactions with james lickowski james is an amazing human being he is the guy that i could never mention um because i i i had a professional uh respect for him and a personal respect that i would never revealed his his identity until he was ready to reveal his identity and i kept that secret until he came out with his book he's an incredible human being by far one of the greatest rocket scientists we've ever had and i'm glad he's finally being vindicated yeah now the thing is with the book as well that it doesn't contain top secret sci information yet it seems to um portray a lot of information that we don't know already how is that hidden somewhere but it's declassified where's that he went through a review process he had to go through uh from my understanding a very lengthy review process about 14 months through the pentagon um i i imagine they probably weren't very happy initially with with him releasing it um but you know i can't really comment on the book because it's not my book he that book was written uh if you have specific questions about the book my recommendation would be to approach him but he he's an incredible human being now i understand completely let's just jump back to the ai software quickly with the new um avenue the the direction is going in with the ai and the data and everything that may come out of it are we likely to see a development in the observables let's say as far as we have six yeah six right now could we see that number jump i sure hope so yeah i mean that's that's that's that's the intent right is to to open the aperture my hope is that we do find other observables i suspect we probably will but you don't know what you don't know right so you know this is this is part of that i'm sure some really smart savvy people are going to get a hole when they start this ai finally gets fielded they're going to be like they're going to find all sorts of creative ways to use it that we never would have imagined we're going to say holy smokes yeah no that's great thank you um and we saw the interview on um mystery wire with tom kelleher and and another good man colin is is an incredible human being as well he's done a lot for for this country we owe him a great deal of gratitude for sure absolutely i completely agree i've been following his work for quite some years but um he actually talked about a case which involves some um [Music] a public encounter with a father and daughter with three orbs that actually entered a vehicle um passed through the father's shoulder we're talking about three orbs of baseball size is that something that you encountered through your studies in atip that you can correlate to what was studied in or you know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna talk about asap um i've refrained from that uh since the beginning it's it's it's not my place uh i i can't speak from a position of authority um or expertise in asap i've made that very clear since day one i know people are curious um i'm curious but but it's not my area of expertise and it would be it wouldn't be wise for me to comment on on that that aspect i understand completely um one thing that has come up is one little small sentence about remote viewing and i'm not gonna actually ask you to comment on this statement but this is something i've asked you about in the past that you didn't want to extrapolate on and this is just for everybody that's asking i'm not going to go there lou i think you know this i'm writing saying this that it's not part of the discussion that we need to be having right now um well it's it's it's first of all it's it's it's it's written in somebody else's book yeah and if if somebody wants to ask questions about it they need to ask that person you know i've done a lot of things for my country this most of my my my background in my professional uh experience is is has not been open to the public the only part of my career that's ever been opened to public is really my part concerning uaps um and there's a reason for that um you know i i'm not gonna confirm or deny or or elaborate one way or the other what some of my other duties responsibilities are or were or or or have been um that's i'm not sure it's relevant to the conversation to be honest with you we've been i think very successful focusing on on the uap um effort and i think we need to at least from my perspective that's where that's where i need to remain focused i completely understand this is an uh this conversation has been planned for a few weeks with the drop of the book yesterday my inbox exploded with remote viewing this remote viewing that and you know we touched upon this a while back and i understand you're positioned um so i just wanted to put this out there for everyone that i'm not going to push that narrative um let's let's finish off on a question that i really have got for months and months and months what books relating to ufos would you recommend anything no don't ask me that you know i hate doing that i don't want to endorse a product i don't want to is this high mistake once before apparently those books that what i recommended went on amazon became like it was like a six dollar book and one of going for like 500 for a book and i'm like oh my god you know i i didn't mean to do that i just people asked me a question i gave him an honest answer and all of a sudden you know now people are like that book's like 500 bucks i'm like oh god no well i hope this doesn't affect the price but i'll i'll recommend graeme rendell's book on the foo fight it's 1940 to 1945. i will say i have a copy of it and i will say that that i am i am uh i am it is uh incredible it i am um i am reading it uh but i have to be really careful of any endorsing anything man you know i didn't i understand with of course our our friend in in uh australia as well because i really like oh yeah you know man i got beat up so bad for doing that people say yeah oh yeah because they think i was getting a kickback right and i'm like no i'm not getting paid you know for for some reason everybody happens to think something it's always about money i'm like well you know it's not i think i saw once um recently on social media i was making all sorts of money with the history channel i'm like dude i mean enough with two years worth of work to buy a fancy lawnmower so get over it you know i i made substantially less than minimum wage in fact it probably if if i wanted to i could probably have a lawsuit for like slave labor because i put two years of my life into something and got paid peanuts literally i mean and i had to take time off for work to do it so i actually lost money doing something that was part of the the five pillars there right so that was the sure five that was part of of of engagement you know to to to everybody else public engagement that's why that's why chris and i did it understandable listen lou i will just one last question what's next for you as we see out the end of 2021 in jumping into 2022. what's what's happening well it kind of gave you a sneak peek already i thought uh yeah kind of you know um so when do we expect the drop then and am i right saying this is going to be app based um you know it's going to be multi-base it's good there's there's an app but there's also a desktop and there's going to be other pieces to this i mean it's been has not been easy um you know my intent is to provide it allow this capability to go free to anybody who wants it and then you know if you want to use it for some very very specific stuff where it actually is costing us a hell of a lot of money then maybe you know somebody might want to do a subscription but it's not necessary you don't have to do that you know it's it's going to be available our intent is to allow you know a version of it free for anybody who wants to use it um you know but that costs money um and you know nobody's donating to this it's you know people say well where is it i want it well yeah sure but you know it it ain't cheap and it's been a lot of us you know are doing this from from you know part of from a place in our heart where we want to contribute but you know i was like guys you know you ain't paying for it so you know you want to come around faster well you know we're trying our best you know absolutely man i appreciate it quick shout out to lara thank you so much for the five dollars i think i've got one more tyler at contact tour thank you for the ten dollars so much lou this has been amazing eye opening i'm so blessed that you were the i was the first for you to show this presentation it means i did it at a forum uh but it wasn't really public it was invitation only i did it in europe uh it has not been publicly provided uh it has been provided to some other very senior people like i said you are really the first that this has been publicly provided to you that means a lot it means a lot and um if you could just hang about for a minute after we have this conversation a little debrief because we are meeting myself and you are meeting in london in a couple of weeks and we won't say any more about that but that could be fun everybody we'll see if something comes out of that a little video a little interview or something but uh cuban in the uk there's got to be a joke there's got to be a joke there somewhere dude we're going to drink some ale i'm ready man i'll tell you i love love love the uk if anybody has ever wanted to go anywhere in the world if you've never been to westminster abbey you will absolutely be in tears it is it is one of the most profoundly beautiful places i've ever been it's ju it's almost overwhelming and when you see the history uh of uk there and all these people that have been buried there and some of the tombs and how ornate and the love that was put in behind some of those it's just breathtaking it's it's absolutely incredible it is we take it for granted sometimes here in the uk um finally laura sosa thank you for that super sticker lou i'm not going to keep you any longer man well i don't want to keep you guys i appreciate it yeah i gotta go uh but i know it's you know almost one o'clock for you all over there i apologize don't you dare apologize man it's been a pleasure it's it's it's always good to speak to you man you've always given me the time of day and yeah it means the world so thank you so much man great well i'm sure people are going to poke holes in that briefing i gave you you know there's always people let's go no matter what i pledge what i try to do they were like oh you don't like that you know so man like we got you man it's all good guys thank you to everyone so much we appreciate you love you so much until the next time we'll see you later bye